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The “Ancient Landmarks”

It’s been a while since our last dose of Schaap so here we go…


Posted by Darrell

32 comments...What do you think?

  1. Posted by JimE 31st December, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    At about 1:03 in the video Schaap states: “I don’t answer to a board. I don’t answer to a committee. I don’t answer to the deacons. I don’t answer to anybody except Jesus Christ.”

    This belief is a recipe for disaster. I’d hate to be in his shoes when he goes before God.

  2. Posted by Japheth 31st December, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Par for the course in MOST IFBX churches!

  3. Posted by Jordan 31st December, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    It’s so cute when they mistake Western culture for gospel truth. Does he really think that Moses or Abraham ever ranted and raved about women wearing pants?

  4. Posted by J Leslie 31st December, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    I remember being shocked the first time I found out what Proverbs 22:28 was actually taking about. Actual, literal landmarks being moved. Not a set of standards passed on down generations. Who says Fundamentalists follow a literal hermaneutic?

  5. Posted by Nathan 31st December, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    No…I don’t see the handwriting on the wall…

  6. Posted by Ron Bean 1st January, 2010 at 9:00 am

    What saddens me about this is that there are thousands of good people who sit under this kind of verbal abuse and think it’s preaching.

  7. Posted by Morgan 1st January, 2010 at 11:38 am

    Is that “no britches” or “no br*tches”?

  8. Posted by Morgan 1st January, 2010 at 11:39 am

    Is that “no britches” or “no b*tches?”

    sorry, its early!

  9. Posted by persifler 1st January, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    When one has been programmed with this junk all their lives it takes a supernatural intervention from a sovereign God to snap them out of it. Up until a couple of years ago I would have probably said, “Amen, Preach it…” Now I hang my head in shame that this fecal matter is what passes for Christianity. But for the grace of God I would still be smack in the middle of the same type of religion.
    Once out of the Bunker and fresh air hits your lungs and real light illumens your eyes and truth fills your soul… you look back and like the story of Plato’s cave you want to run back in and tell everyone it is all shadows and false images… and they turn on you and despise you for your worldly liberalism. “Foolish Galatians” and pharisaic Vipers if you are not in camp with them… you are either a liberal heretic, a back-slidden worldly Christian (as opposed to being a supersaint in their bunker) or you are a devil.
    What a stench, a putrid, foul oder we must raise to heaven as we wallow in our ignorance and pride. (aside: Ignorance is a good thing, in fact in the IFB/IFBX movement one’s godliness is in direct proportion to one’s ignorance…)

  10. Posted by Daniel Sherrell 1st January, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    OK…. Constantly pushing against his face makes me think he’s got some mental issues

  11. Posted by Chris 1st January, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    Meanwhile…those who are actually born-again in churches such as FBC Hammond never mature out of the “milk” phase of the faith because of the absolute theological bankruptcy that exists in these pulpits. Rather than systematic exposition of the Scripture (which actually feeds the flock and keeps them from real theological error), churches such as this set out to protect their “movement”, the “I’m a much more devout Christian than you because I…” movement.

    “Shepherds” such as this ought to be afraid of facing Christ on that day.

  12. Posted by Richard Sullivan 2nd January, 2010 at 8:21 am

    I’m glad to see good ol’ Brother Jack is still the same as when I first met him in 1995. I was tempted not to wash my right hand after he shook it (you known, being Jack Hyles son-in-law) but I soon had to because Peter Ruckman came to my church and I most certainly didn’t want to give him any Hyles cooties.

  13. Posted by Jordan M. Poss 2nd January, 2010 at 11:19 am

    Yeah, I was thinking this was ugly but not too unusual until the last five seconds, when all that ranting came to a head with the “ancient landmarks” thing. That non sequitur turned my brain inside out.

  14. Posted by Acadstudent001 2nd January, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    Why does he keep punching himself in the face . . .

  15. Posted by The Watcher 2nd January, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    I had no idea Ozzy Osbourne had shaved his hair and become a preacher.

    Anybody else notice the guy sitting behind him in the dark suit at :54 – :55? The look on his face of abject terror his priceless.

  16. Posted by Morgan 3rd January, 2010 at 9:55 am

    I think these guys would have women in burkhas if they could. It’s just a way of keeping women in their place.

    Ignorance breeds ignorance. Jack Schaap is a prime example. I listen to the IFB sermons at from a local church for entertainment value. The preacher is really – to put it kindly – not the sharpest tool in the shed. His flock must not be either, to put up with his rambling nonsense.

  17. Posted by Sandra 3rd January, 2010 at 10:57 am

    Persifler….Amen!

  18. Posted by persifler 3rd January, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    Chris,
    The sad part is in isolation chambers like this they are not getting the sincere milk of the word, so there is nothing for them to mature on. The are being filled with the ear candy of their bunker’s falvor du jour.

  19. Posted by J Leslie 3rd January, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    So I decided to watch some other videos of this guy, and this one shocked me the most:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_9JlsuLVTc&feature=player_embedded

  20. Posted by Alm517 3rd January, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    J,
    That was disturbing and I found a couple more that I think rank right up there.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqgvMv5jIpA&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqgvMv5jIpA&feature=related

  21. Posted by Brendt Waters 4th January, 2010 at 1:34 am

    How many thrones do they have on that stage?

  22. Posted by James 4th January, 2010 at 2:49 am

    The big older fellow with white hair and glasses behind Jack was in my pastors wedding 30+ years ago.

  23. Posted by mark rosedale 4th January, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    Bless his heart!

  24. Posted by mark rosedale 4th January, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    @J Leslie

    Wow that is the worst thing I think I have ever heard. Unbelievable. Make such a wild and bigoted assertion and then pretend to hide behind scripture. It is sickening.

  25. Posted by RJW 4th January, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    about the link J. Leslie posted:

    That is just so highly offensive. However, being a woman, I almost had to laugh. . .I think I could easily correct him on a lot of his warped and twisted Theology. ;)

  26. Posted by Eric 5th January, 2010 at 8:54 am

    No offense to the women who visit here, but the worst part about J. Leslie’s link is that midway through he says he won’t allow men to correct him on his “theology” either. So, if you aren’t teachable by man or by woman doesn’t that disqualify you for the position of a pastor? Nope, in the IFB movement they take people that are this arrogant and put them in charge of everything.

  27. Posted by Morgan 5th January, 2010 at 9:21 am

    Why are IFB’ers so obsessed with women wearing pants? Is it because they have a problem with controlling their lust? There have got to be some psychological issues here at work.

  28. Posted by Marsh 5th January, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    Come on, Morgan – that’s easy; pants create crotches. Crotches naturally draw the eye. That’s why men prefer trees, what with all of those crotches. Women wear pants, create crotches, and cause men to sin. Reminds of The Onion article about the Catholic Church forgiving all of those nubile young boys for tempting priests; perhaps the same thing should happen here regarding brazen temptresses and their lust-inducing, crotch-creating britches.

  29. Posted by Jeremy 10th January, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    This is a perfect example of preaching opinion and not bible. I grew up as an evangelists’ son, our family traveled for eight years and sang in hundreds of churches, all of which were BBF churches. i don’t know how many times I had to sit there and listen to this bullvine scatography!!!! These confused preachers better wake up, is it hour job to preach on salvation and what lies ahead without it, or do we continue to rant and rave about women wearing pants, or a man wearing his sideburns to long! It is absolutely rediculous.

  30. Posted by Chicken Bob 10th January, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Alison said that was the same message he preached at her HS graduation in 1990. Looks like he has it memorized pretty well. LOL.

  31. Posted by Mr. Mister 7th July, 2010 at 8:18 am

    I bet Schaap’s favorite song is “Baby’s Got Her Blue Jeans On”

  32. Posted by Phatchick 22nd July, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    @JimE- You hit the nail on the head about why I distrust IBCs. There is no accountability, consequently plenty of opportunity for corruption and abuse. Yeah, yeah, I know, the pastor is “accountable” to the congregation who called him but IME an abusive or biblically ignorant pastor is almost never taken to task. Any time anyone, male or female, dares to say a word the rest of the congregation will come screaming down on them telling them not to abuse the “Lord’s anointed”. Which is why I’ve seen preachers in pulpits for 20 years in the same church. No one had the nerve to suggest that they be voted out.

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