288 thoughts on “The Jack Schaap Story”

    1. Yes, they included the miraculous birth narrative, but they left out the part where he was laid in a manger and some Wise Men from the East brought gifts.

  1. Do you notice the elements of the story about his mom?

    “childless and promised her son to the Lord” = Hannah
    “kept those things in her heart” = Mary

    This story is designed to make him seem like a character of biblical proportions.

    1. He is following in the footsteps of his FIL: self-aggrandizement is the order of the day, pushing the envelope to see how many of the Great Shepherd’s beloved sheep he can hoodwink… In fact, pretty well fitting the definition of a wolf on sheep’s clothing. ๐Ÿ‘ฟ

    2. Oh, that’s nothing. Fundie parents are always buttering up their own children with stuff like that. I even believed it for a little bit of my adult life, just long enough to tell a campus councilor it. Yeah, that didn’t get me labelled as a narcissist or anything.

      1. I’m on my iPhone, and I can’t watch the video either. That’s probably for the best, though. I expect the video would either have made me sick or fall off my chair laughing, and both of those tend to disturb the other inhabitants of the cubicle farm.

  2. I’m disappointed they left out the part that Dr. Schaap is faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound……

    1. My former fundy church did a 20 minute pastor worship video for their mogโ€™s ….get ready….15 years of service to the church. That’s more than a minute/year. The video claims that “not only does he impact individual church members, their families, the congregation, community, country, but ultimately the WORLD. I kid you not! No one has ever heard of this guy outside IFBism. Mention his name at the local coffee shop and no one will have a clue who he is. Rest assured the bubble that is fundyism is tightly sealed. So yeah, pastor = superman ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

      1. “…Mention his name at the local coffee shop and no one will have a clue who he is…”

        Except for the waitresses who would recognize him as the guy who only leaves gospel tracts instead of a tip.

        1. Oh don’t get me started on this! When I worked as a waitress there were two Baptist churches within a two block radius of the restaurant. Every Sunday these people would come in to eat after church and they ALWAYS left tracts instead of tips. They assumed the waitresses were unsaved because… get this… we worked on Sundays. Why did we have to work on Sundays? Because THEY came in to eat on Sundays! I heard this over and over when I’d give them their tract back saying I was already saved. What hypocrites they were! ๐Ÿ‘ฟ

        2. Interesting Baptist logic there:
          Eating in a restaurant on Sunday = good.
          Working in a restaurant on Sunday so people can eat there = bad.

          Bonus round:
          Tips = bad.
          Looking down on people who serve your food = good.

    2. “Iโ€™m disappointed they left out the part that Dr. Schaap is faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive and able to leap tall buildings in a single boundโ€ฆโ€ฆ”

      Would it be scriptural to wear his underpants outside his trousers?

  3. If it werenโ€™t so sad considering all of the mindless who call him โ€œpastor,โ€ it would be hilarious.

    It is as if he is the next Samuel or John with the magnificent story or conception and then the apocalyptic calling. Blah!

    1. Jack Hyles mocked the title, “pastor,” even mocking the way people in that area pronounced it. He insisted on being called, instead, “Preacher.” This makes sense; he would prefer a title more equated with yelling and berating, than one equated with shepherding and loving. I would guess FBC people call Schaap “Preacher.” ๐Ÿ˜•

      1. Whenever I feel like getting under the skin of my current pastor I call him “Reverend”. His wife told me he hates being called that more than anything so I do it now and then just to make sure he stays on his toes. Hearing my mom use the word “Preacher” to describe HER pastor makes my skin crawl.

        1. We called our previous priest “Father Paul.” Our new one could be “Reverend Garrett,” but she insists on just being called “Susan.”

    1. As I said elsewhere, when I was there lo these many years ago, the only earned Ph.D.’s there belonged to Evans, Cowling, and Rasmussen, and I discount that last one,because he “earned” it at HAC.

      1. I couldn’t help but notice that the term “received” as opposed to “earned” was used. At least they were honest about the fact that it was given to him and took no effort on his part. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

        1. Bam! Qualified!

          At least in my imagination (I haven’t seen them face to face), Sims, Seen Enough, and I Am His Beloved are pretty darned cute.

        2. Well, BG, I cannot speak for IAHB, but you are right on the money about Sims and me. She says humbly. But I refer to the fact that, after ten hours freezing to death on Chicago streets, and subsisting on a peanut butter sandwich, elves seem cuter than bus workers.

        3. The peanut butter on my breath was part of my charm, and the horrible meals and lack of any consistent nutrition kept me slim and trim. (Not that anyone would have ever noticed under my denim burqa (sp?)) But I digress… There is nothing so attractive as a skinny, frostbitten WUOG (Woman Used Of God) Ahhh Altogether now… {sings} “To Be USED of God, to SING to SPEAK to PRAY…. To Be USED of God to show someone the WAY… I LONG so MUCH to FEEL the TOUCH of His con – su – ming FIRE… TO BE USED of GOD… Is… My… De… SIRE” Ahhh. lovely.

        4. Sims! Don’t MAKE me break out my best Marlene Evans impression!! Gag, that song brings back dreadful memories….

        5. Awe, don’t forget about me, I was there. The worst part of those P&J sandwiches they were made the day before. Ever had one of those? And the rice pee-loff, that was a daily staple. Talk about freezing in Chicago for 10 hours…yeah who had time to worry about getting shot? Freezing weather and bare naked sexy legs made you want to smear the P&J on em to block the cold.

        6. GuiltRidden, you are so nice. Monipenny, I never had bare naked legs the entire time I was there, unless I was in my dorm!!! I thought i was a bad girl for going bare legged under a long dress when I was a bridesmaid! But it felt great to get away with it. It being such gross sin. ๐Ÿ™„

        7. From just below the knee down, totally naked. The real reason fundy guys demand ladies wear dresses or skirts is so they can secretly gawk at our sexy calf muscle.

        8. Sims, could you be a dear and take supper out of the oven when the timer goes off? I’ve given myself an awful concussion what with banging my head against the wall to get that song out of it.

        9. What? You mean by the time I got there they changed the rules to permit short skirts just below the knees? Sims, I would have feared for your safety out in that boat in a long skirt if you would have capsized. I guess we should be grateful they had a life guard on duty, you thought he was just a guard. Shee’s you just don’t give them enough credit.

        10. Okay, I see what you are saying. Not exactly bare naked legs. Our legs were covered with silky sheen smooth tan hose….even more sex appeal, wouldn’t you agree?

        11. About those peanut butter sandwiches… Not only were they made the day before (or possibly much much more than one day before) the peanut butter was put onto the bread in a scoop and then not spread out at all. When I was on kitchen detail in 1979 or so (who knows, Monipenny, maybe I made one of your sandwiches you ate when you were there.) I was trying to make them more spread out because by the time we got to eat them they were frozen solid and the peanut butter was impossible to eat and the bread was dry and hard as a brick. So anyway, the kitchen-hag yelled at me and told me to just do them the way they do them because it takes too long to do them “right”. So much for that.

        12. Sims, are you telling me that my P&J sandwiches were 6 years old by the time I got them? No wonder the hard stale bread was soggy by the time I ate em.

          And it’s probably better that you did listened to the kitchen hag, it gave you more free time to boat around the island (you just aren’t looking at the bright side ๐Ÿ˜€ ). How the heck did you ever have time for that anyway? I didn’t even know they had a boat for your pleasure. Was that a priveledge reserved only for the smart ones?

        13. I was there right after they aquired the campus so there was a lot they hadn’t figured out yet. I think the boat was left over from the monks. It disappeared before I was done there though. Either got sunk or got taken away because it was kind of fun.

        14. Not sure which kitchen hag you mean; the bakery hag was Miss Kate, who seemed pretty nice. I am laughing at the name, though! ๐Ÿ˜‰

        15. It wasn’t Kate. I kindof remember her. She was rather nice. But I don’t remember who it was. It was a student though, full of her own percieved power over peanut butter. Somehow I imagine her boundaries expanded from that job to something even greater like ~oh i don’t know~ cafeteria hag.

        16. Oh Simsy Doodle, I just google imaged FBC Hammond, and I KNOW I must be the last person on earth to kow this, but the building where WE went to church isn’t the church any more!

        17. @GR…Stuff fundies like: Banquets. Bahahaa. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

          Sorry, that’s just where my brain goes when I heard the word banquet…and it’s especially Banquets Instead of Dances Like Prom. ๐Ÿ™„

  4. Wow, so supposedly he was 10 and prayed for hours and hours until the “Spirit filled the room” and he surrended to preach. Yeah. Okay. What a way to start my morning! Thanks, Darrell! ๐Ÿ˜†

      1. My Advice at this point is to *most quickly* open as many windows as possible, and avoid any possible sources of combustion (light switches, plug strips, etc)… :mrgreen:

    1. That reminded me of the elections in North Korea where Kim L Jong (or whatever his name is) would get 99% of the vote. I’m sure they just made up the number to make it look like it was real.

      1. I have had friends tell me horror stories about forced vote outcomes; usually by refusing secret ballot – people had to raise their hands and be counted, or else they had to sign the ballots, or some other scheme. All of this after “this is what the preacher wants; if you vote against this choice, you are against him and God’s plan for this church.”

        Not surprised AT ALL that the votes are in the upper 90 percentiles.

  5. It should’ve told more about how King Jack the first decided that Prince Jack the second would secede him in the Kingdom I mean pastorate. How he was handpicked for that job and then given Jack the first’s daughter to wife. How out of all the preacher boys that came to HAC did he decide Schaap was the one? I’m sure Jack the first wanted his son David to secede him but David brought about all those scandals so he had to choose another, and since he had no more sons it had to be a son in law. He was groomed for his position and given the mantle of Elijah so he could have a double portion of daddy in law’s power. :mrgreen:

    1. I was just suddenly filled with a horrible, yawning grief for the women stuck in this system and bartered about, knowing that they will be paired up with a total winner.

        1. Nah, Sims, we knew guys that came out of it, like ours did. The good ones were in the minority, but they did exist.

  6. Hmmmmm……..7500 seat auditorium, over 20,000 people “on the property” each Sunday. Do they count heads in the cars that drive by? That’s some serious traveling evangelist type number crunching.

    1. They drive busloads of kids through and count them. Probably don’t even get them out of the bus though. Maybe circle around and count them again if they are having a slow week. ๐Ÿ˜

    2. I went to their website to see if they had two morning services, but no, they do not. While I was looking, I noticed that they do not call them “worship services”, but instead call them “preaching services.” I think that says a lot about the focus there. You wouldn’t be there to worship, you would be there to sit and get preached at.

      1. Yes. Sibley Street, which Jack Hyles insisted on calling Sibley “Boo-lay-vard.” And Sims, no lie, I heard stories about Vineyard counting them twice as they came around the block looking for clearance.

    3. I believe the children, ESPECIALLY the “bus kids” are sent to “children’s church” and not allowed in the main auditorium with the adults.

      FWIW, when I was a kid, my mom used to babysit some kids who went to FBCH, or as they called it, “Jack Hyles’ Church”. She asked them if it should be called “Jesus Christ’s Church” but they said no, it was definitely “Jack Hyles’ Church”. Anyway, on Mondays they always had numbers written on the backs of their hands in permanent marker. That’s how the SS/CC workers kept track of the kids. And these were children of FBCH members, not bus kids!

      1. Yes, the bus kids and the college kids were second class citizens there and were not allowed to co-mingle with the “regular” attenders. The college kids for the hours they put in slaving to make the numbers high, and the bus kids for being there to make the numbers high. The numbers on their hands were so they wouldn’t get on the wrong bus and get taken home to the wrong place. I don’t know why a non-bus kid would have a number on his hand though.

        1. There was an A bus ministry, Sims. Vic Nischik, for instance, was a bus captain of an A route for years. They marked their kids.

        2. And then shoving us college students on the mezadene level, as if that spot was reserved for lower class people. Remember the secret service men disguised in suit and tie walking back and forth behind us to make sure we were paying attention and not talking?

      2. “She asked them if it should be called ‘Jesus Christโ€™s Church’ but they said no, it was definitely ‘Jack Hylesโ€™ Church'”.

        At least they got that right.
        Jesus Christ was never really part of their scheme.

      1. Don’t tempt me. I diagram sentences t o relax, but diagramming anything from that Jackhole’s mouth…. Shuddering creepies. ๐Ÿ‘ฟ
        And yes, I am a nerd. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    1. That is because it is emotional manipulation. and I, for one, am glad that I now recognize it. Like @Polished, there was a time I would have taken in the drivel also.

      I’m really happy as a reformed legalist.

  7. I like the ending. It is as if they are saying “If you were as devoted and as spiritual as Jack S. you could do this too”. It is a nice, very subtle touch.
    It makes the peons feel like less of a Christian than the great man. “The reason Jack S is such a great man is because he is close to God. Ergo, the reason you are a nobody is you are a secret sinner. Please go beat yourself up over that.”

  8. Ok, haven’t read the comments yet, have a few of my own. First of all, wow, you would think with his miraculous birth into this world his mother was MARY or something and he was the blessed incarnation.
    Those HOURS he spent in prayer… I heard this all the time in college how someone would stay up all night in prayer until the POWER of the Holy Spirit would come upon them (Like they brought it through their tenacity, and the only reason I didn’t have it was because I was too lazy to stay up all night asking for it.) I always felt a little inferior because of this.
    Also, what was that white building by the lake? It wasn’t there when I went there. Is it the Hyles-Schaap worship center?
    Then I just LOVED the tender moment between him and his father in law and then the clips of him preaching. Then I had to go throw up. That’s all. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    1. I do not know what the new building is, specifically, but when I saw an overview of the campus, I was surprised at how FULL it looked, of buildings. More monuments to men. There is also an island in the lake with something on it, too.

      1. The island was always there. It was against the rules to go onto it though. (I have a picture of me on it…ooohhhhh) We used to row around it when the weather was decent enough. There was one place on the lake where the island blocked the view from all the windows of the dorms and the nosy security guards and you could actually be alone. Of course as soon as they discovered that it became against the rules to row the boat around the lake you had to stay on the building-side of the lake. ๐Ÿ™„

        1. It is probably an altar or shrine or something. Probably NOT a monument to the girl who was brave enough to get out of the canoe when she was being escorted around the island just to prove she wasn’t afraid of no demerits.

        2. Someone who lives within driving distance of Crown Point needs to get out to that island and get a photo. I would die if it were a statue that looked like you. ๐Ÿ˜†
          But, if a female goes, she has to be in the proper attire, and men, clean-shaven or else!

        3. It is the central command post where all the electronic surveillance equipment is kept. No wonder they don’t want anyone out there.

        4. No doubt heavily guarded by a bunch of Rent-a-Mooks in black (and the water around the island is filled with sharks with frickin-laser-beams attached to their heads ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

    2. I have to say that the new building turns my stomach. I’m certainly one for making something look nice, but the tens of thousands of dollars that went into just the stage of the building is ridiculous. Seriously, go feed the poor or something. Quit building you own Tower of Babel to yourself. ๐Ÿ˜ก

      1. I agree. My former fundy church spend hundreds of thousands of dollars just on a few pianos (over $100k each). With all the need in the world (missionalry schools, clinics, etc.), how can they justify such blatant materialism? What a shame!

        1. I went to a fundy church once that was just starting a $110 wing to just house bathrooms. I thought it odd at the time how the pastor took extra time to justify that expense while citing more pressing needs. Basically he ended up saying that the people gave money for the potties and he was forced to do what the people asked even though he knew missionaries had more pressing needs.

  9. I’m from a different part of the world to most of you, different accent etc. Consequently – the shouting? Can’t understand a word he says. I’m inclined to think this is a good thing.

  10. So…Where is Jesus? I see the First baptist monument to Schaap. I see Schaap preachers grand basement college. I hear how Schaap is our saviour. Any decent person of gawad would have rejected this praise video to himself. I guess Jack Schaap doesnt let humility stand in his way. They probably wouldnt let Jesus into the sanctuary at first schaaptist church. His hair and beard dont go with that sqeaky clean white wash theme they have going on.

    1. I thought the whole video was a succinct statement of FBC Hammond/HAC theology.
      Lots and lots and lots about how great Schaap is (with a shoutout to how great Hyles was); nothing at all about Jesus or the Gospel. God is mentioned, but only in the context of how lucky God is to work with Jack Schaap.

  11. The sad thing is that there’s so much that’s essentially true. We are not representing ourselves. We’re to let Jesus shine through us. But when a five minute video mentions Jesus twice (mayhaps? I’m not going back and watching again) you might just think that Jack needs to listen to himself.

    Also, has anyone considered punching this man?

    1. “Also, has anyone considered punching this man?”

      Not him, but I confess I have spent many many hours fantasizing about running into his father-in-law (anywhere) and beating the crap out of him. I knew just how it would happen. I would walk up to him and say, “Hey, you are Jack Hyles aren’t you? Remember me?” (Of course he wouldn’t remember me, but this would put him off his guard) Before he had a chance to respond though, BAM punch to the gut. He wouldn’t be expecting it, he doubles over, POW elbow to the back of the neck simultaneously with a knee to the groin or wherever it might land… well, this goes on until he is quivering on the floor and I am being dragged away by cops. Do you think I should seek help?

      1. “Do you think I should seek help?”

        You might need some grief counseling to deal with your regret about not doing this while Hyles was still alive. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

  12. When I got near the end and they had a clip of Schaap talking, I was expecting a blip of a profound preaching moment. Instead, it sounded a little like Dr. Seuss. Quite underwhelming if you ask me!

    1. Someone told him if you repeat something, it adds emphasis, but no one told him if you repeat something 400 times, it makes everyone want to cover their ears and run out of the room.

        1. We understood you. FWIW, it is one of the great tragedies of American literature that Dr. Seuss was not made the Poet Laureate.

  13. Darell,
    I used to think this sight was funny but I cannot stand by and let you tear down a great Man of god like this. I have been reading this sight for a while now but I beleive I will have to stop.
    Dr. Schaap has seen thousands of souls saved. How many have you seen saved? If you are so great why aren’t you out pastoring a church? Sure, he has his problems but doesnt’ everyone? You should examine yourself first before you post things like this.
    This sight has great potential for good but it is just full of postings by bitter people who are angry at God. I think you people need to read your Bibles and than hit an old-fashioned altar and repent.
    Remember, JESUS SEES WHAT YOU POST HERE. SO DOES SATAN. WHO DO YOU THINK IS HAPPY ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE WRITING?

      1. Please, please tell me this is intended to be funny. Someone who’s ‘been reading the site for a while’ would only have done these things *because* they saw yesterday’s post, right?
        put Authorized Version prominently in their username
        ALL CAPS
        How many have *you* saved, eh?
        “Bitter”
        Does this site make Jesus happy?
        “Darell”
        You need to read your Bible more.
        Nobody’s perfect; you’ve made mistakes, too!
        Repeated misspellings.
        Doesn’t realize they’re not the first reprimander (but that was free)
        Expects vicious response for defending fundiness (I guess you were a teeny bit subtle about that one)
        Passive-aggressive calls to examine oneself
        Definitely a drive-by poster (Sorry, you’d have to work a little harder to convince me you’re a regular reader)

        The new ones to add:
        Capitalize man but not God in the phrase Man of god. โ—
        Jesus is watching you!
        Examine your own heart! (This is probably just a subset of passive-aggressive calls to examine oneself)
        You must be sinless to criticize others.
        You’re angry at God! Repent!
        You’re not funny anymore! I’m leaving!

        This person is either a brilliant satirist, or… ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

        1. Capitalize man but not God in the phrase Man of god.

          now Naomi we can’t fault him with that one, it’s the only thing he got right. M-O-g ๐Ÿ˜‰

        2. Oh! I really really just read it as satire! Is this Poe’s Law? Gasp. This guy is surely not for real! He got yesterday’s post down pat! ๐Ÿ˜•

    1. I knew that I would get made fun off for standing for the truth. I tried to warn you in love but you just mock me.
      It is like the Bible says in 2 Timothy 4;4; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
      What saddens me about this sight is that you have all decided to turn your ears away from the truth taught in the King James Bible and have decided to turn to the fables of the modern perversions.

      This is a last time I am going to post here since you all obviously don’t want to glorify God but rather tear down the work of God by criticizing His men and His methods.

      What I cant’ understand is this, if the Independant Baptist Church was so bad than why do you all spend so much time on this sight talking about it? You lot are worse then the fundamentalists that you criticize.

      I admit their are some problems in the Independant Baptist movement but we are not all alike. Some of us arent’ like the rest of them.

      Whatever. I know that you all are going to tare me apart for posting this because I am a fundamentalist and dont’ see eye to eye with you all. Oh well, the Bible warns us that their will be a grate falling away in the last days. I guess this sight proves that.

        1. I’m glad you outed yourself. I was really thinking, “Who is this ignorant jerk?” :mrgreen:

          Kudos – I don’t know if I could even think like an “Independant Baptist” anymore. ๐Ÿ˜•

      1. I knew that I would get made fun off for standing for the truth.

        And what “truth” would that be?
        No, really, what truth did you stand for??

        *george?
        Yeah Don?
        *Leave this one alone.
        That’s what’s so funny Don, I never touched this one! ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

        1. Iโ€™m glad you outed yourself. I was really thinking, โ€œWho is this ignorant jerk?โ€

          Kudos โ€“ I donโ€™t know if I could even think like an โ€œIndependant Baptistโ€ anymore.

          Sorry, my post showed up in the middle of the thread. ๐Ÿ˜ณ

        2. @Naomi,

          I didn’t get to post yesterday so I thought I would give it a shot today. I tried to work every one of the squares from yesterday in but I think I missed a couple.

          It isn’t hard for me to think like a fundy mog since I used to be one. My wife is very kind and sweet but she will throw a punch if I start to use my preacher voice around her. I do it every now and then to annoy her!

        3. It was truly an excellent job. I give you this gilded Bingo Card as a tribute to your success!! (Comes with Honorary Doctorate of Fundy-Trolling)

      2. It looks like George was all over this post. There are so many typos and misspellings George must be jumping for joy. Now why don’t you get a spell checker and use it before you post again? ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

  14. For being entitled “Magnifying Jesus,” there was precious little of that actually going on the video.

    Also, I noticed they say 20,000 people each week. I would say that’s over the whole week. And they count the students in that. Probably every day. And I would guess all attendees of the “preaching services” are counted each time they show up. I think it’s supposed to imply that there are a lot of people there on Sunday, but it’s phrased to be much more ambiguous just in case they’re called on it, I’d say.

    Also, that video was smarmy.

  15. It’s funny how these so called “pastors” can attack anyone they want with impunity & it’s ok. Let anyone else strike back & they are all of the sudden of the devil for speaking out against such an annointed man. Just because someone say’s that God called & annointed them doesn’t make it so. If I had a dollar for every insecure, self centered, ignorant self called pastor, I would be a rich man.

  16. I laughed when I saw the photo of that little girl praying, because when I was taking graphic communications last year, someone made a mock DVD cover for a horror movie, and on the cover – you guessed it – they used the stock photo of that kid. Except she had a menacing dude behind her and some bloody writing.

  17. You know what I think is great is the last part of the video, “Magnifying Christ”! HA! Not sure where Christ was magnified but his 2nd son, Jack, sure was!

      1. She laughs because it’s a truism: Everybody hates people. But what can you do? You’re stuck with being one (unless you’re some kind of shape-shifter or something like that).

  18. No mention of finding a wonderful wife or his mother (except to say she prayed for him) I was waiting for the mention of his wife. Oh, but then women aren’t that important, right? ๐Ÿ™„ And the pulpit? Is that a standard pulpit? Geesh, the church I used to go to has one just exactly like it and it’s an IFB church too. And the numbers are always exaggerated, makes them feel important.

  19. B-O-L-O-G-N-A!! Paalease, she had the hots for the drunk, slipped up her skirt above her knees, showed off her toes and seduced the drunken sap. “prayed to marry the guy involved” (Hint, she kept this story deep within her heart, guilt)

        1. Well, I didn’t study the photos, my stomach can only take so much. Would you be so kind to share what the commonality is? ๐Ÿ˜•

  20. I was surprised that they edited out the part where the choir rises and sings, “Bless the M-O-G, O, my soul, and all that is within me, Bless His Holy Name.”

  21. My connection is too slow for video, but I’ll assume the first frame caught the middle of a dissolve. Otherwise, am I the only one who sees a white piano? In the balcony? For no apparent reason?

        1. Thanks Naomi for the point, truth is, I can’t play 2 games at the same time. Bingo and I spy, it’s too much. I have trouble keeping up with the caller and 1 sheet.

  22. Wow. “Doctor” Schapp this,”Doctor” Schaap that; what a terrible human being.

    Join us to hear Doctor Jack Schaap… there’s no other reason to show up. Since the real Messiah isn’t going to be part of this church, please accept this substitute.

  23. Anybody else hear a “good old boy” twang in Jacko’s voice? I’m wondering where that came from seeing as his roots are in Holland, Michigan.

    Self-promotion of the highest order from the original “basement Bible college”.

  24. OK, having gone through the entire thing, what caught my notice was “50 Adult SS classes” — what gives?

    Married Couples
    Single, Wanting to be Married
    Married, Wanting to be Single
    Married, but fighting

    Or one for each age group
    21-year-olds
    22-year-olds?

    Seriously, this seems a lot.

      1. Oh, no bus kids rom Chicago–so, that would be the B, C, and D bus ministries–EVER attended SS with the church people’s own! As far as the schools, Hammond City Bpatist HS was started after bus captains started paying the tuition for their bus teens to be in the regular church high school, Hammond Baptist HS. Well! The kids tried to mingle, and that would never do, hence, new school for bus kids. And woe betide the worker in Spanish church who questioned that! I saw it happen, and heads did roll. Racism is alive and wellin Hammond, Indiana.

  25. That’s it, I am NOT going to post here anymore!!! Nah, on second thought, from now on when I tell a joke, I am NOT going to give the punch line until you all beg for it. I just can’t please you people. :mrgreen:

    1. They made it sound miraculous. But Jack has an older sister who was born in 1952. The video leads you to believe his mother could not have children, but miraculously they were given one – Jack – who turned out to be this great preacher.

  26. okay, there are way to many comments for me to read them all, so I will post this and go back.

    All I could think was “Is this the Joseph Smith story?”

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