If this were a white man at a church in South Carolina I doubt the preacher would be quite as willing to share such a Charismatic tale. But everybody knows that mystical stuff is a lot more likely to occur in Africa.
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Could it BE?
Good morning.
Saved yesterday, baptized today???
Where do you think the scar on his face came from? Did one of his other potential converts hit him?
5th? Not bad for living on the WC (4:11am here!)
Interesting pulpit-Ark in the background. It’s really..indescribable!
From the freeze shot, I thought it was a black piano on white pillars.
I thought that too, at first! I was like, “Whoa. These people take their pianos seriously!”
I was thinking I have seen that pulpet somewhere before. At least that style of pulpet anyway. Joel Osteen? Jack Schaap? One of them… It seems weird to have one like that in Africa. I am sure they had to send for it from somewhere. Just gonna be uncharicteristically critical here for a second and say, they could have had a simple pulpet and used the extra money for food or medical supplies… but that might not impress the people as much as preaching from a fancy weird pulpet I guess.
I’m guessing some church was replacing their ugly old pulpit with a new one, and generously sent the eyesore to the mission field as a donation.
I was thinking GSBC-Trieber, we went every year for the youth conference (which I despised, whole other topic), and I seem to remember their new auditorium had some columns in it. I do remember for sure that they had 4 white pianos.
The pulpit is a replica of the one Jack Schaap designed/ had custom built for him when FBC opened the new building. It started quite the trend among “me too” crowd.
Ugh, seriously? Grotesque.
Jack Schaap involved in the spread of bad taste?
Who would believe it? 🙄
He learned from the best. Worst. You know. 👿
For having just been saved these two converts sure didn’t look very happy. No smiles or anything. Hmmm. 😕
That’s probably a cultural thing more than anything to do with the church or the pastor.
Is that the mark of the beast on his temple>
I have heard missionaries talk about angelic protection, speaking in tongues (“and the natives understood me in their own language!”), and visions. However, if any of that stuff had been practiced in my church or even in America, my church probably would have disciplined them.
To bad Mercy couldn’t tel her story. Typical fundy, put all the attention of yourself. Mercy by the way didn’t appear to be to excited about the whole event. Guess her little boy was not ready.
Phil
Apparently you can tell who the HAC grads are by their pulpit – it’s gotta look like the one at FBC!
I’ve experienced too many cases such as this one to say anything negative about the experience itself.
There is much negative I could drag out regarding missionaries, cultural colonialism, and what have you.
But the fact of the matter is we preach a living God, who prepares the hearts of the listeners. I betcha this pastor has as many or more cases such as this that happened in his own home town.
No, I would not have recorded that little segment, but I have no doubt it is true.
Maybe that mark happened when “he was talking instead of listening?”
That guy was a teacher when I was at HAC.
Having known many African immigrants, I can assure you that mystical stuff IS a lot more likely to occur in Africa. I haven’t been to Africa myself, but I can only surmise that either reality is different there, or (most) African people’s perceptions of reality are very different.
“mystical stuff IS a lot more likely to occur in Africa”
No.
“mystical stuff is a lot more likely to BE RECOGNIZED in Africa”
Yes.
Or conversely: Mystical stuff is more bound to be recognized in Pentecostal churches, rather than in mainline or Baptist churches.
As I heard the missionary say “a profession of faith”, I wondered a bit why he didn’t say that these were “saved”… then I started hoping that the mother & son have really trusted Christ as their Savior, and not merely added “Jesus” to their local gods or whatever else they had been trusting in.
Double standards in fundyism don’t really surprise me anymore. Though, even if it happened in America, most fundies would probably accept any mystical leadings/dreams that encouraged people to think that they were right.
I personally don’t believe in “new revelation” in the form of new doctrine and scripture, but why do some people assume that every person who says that God revealed something to them is talking about some brand new doctrine or something that contradicts scripture?
Never seen the pastor in the video before, so I don’t know where he personally stands on that issue. It would have been more meaningful if he had asked the lady to give her testimony herself and just translated. I did get the vibe that he was very deliberately emphasizing himself (it was a short clip).
I dunno. I’m perfectly willing to believe her story as told. And let’s face it – God sending a dream to a woman in Africa vs. God “burdening” a preacher to preach on a specific text is really two sides of the same coin. I fear there’s some double standards on both sides of the fence sometimes.
Two weeks before my family moved from New Jersey to Maryland, I had a dream. In that dream, my new house was on a cul-de-sac, near a four lane highway and a bicycle shop. My dream was 100% correct. I later realized most houses in suburban America would fit this description.
I also believe there is a form of colonialism going on here. Will the African natives be allowed to worship god with the own customs, language, dress and music, or will they be told in order to worship god they will have to act like repressed white Americans? I notice that some missionaries my church supported seem to be trying to turn people from other counties into repressed white Americans, not Christians.
is there some kind of Jack Scaap pulpit template out there or something… I’m seeing more and more pulpits that look identical to the one in Hammond…
The phrase I found most odd in this clip (at about 40 seconds in): She came today and WE confirmed her faith in Jesus Christ. How is that even possible? Could someone enlighten me as to what this means? I heard a lot of odd things growing up in FBC, but I find this statement to very, very unusual.