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Historian · 01-05-2011, 11:51 PM

(01-05-2011 07:28 PM)elfdream Wrote: One time I was at informal church gathering sitting with some men and I have no idea what we were talking about but it was interesting. The Pastor actually made the suggestion that I should go sit with the ladies because I would find their conversation much more interesting. I didn't move.

Yeah, I've seen and heard that happening a number of times. When I was at BJU I heard a number of lectures from male seminary students about how it wasn't appropriate for women to be discussing such things. I've known MOg's who wouldn't even speak to women. It was quite clear from their attitude they considered it beneath them to do so. And, of course, in the defense of men in general, I've also known MOg's who wouldn't even talk to another man unless he was a fellow MOg. They had apparently reached an even higher spiritual plain than the ordinary ones.

JessB · 01-06-2011, 12:13 AM

Ah yes, the 'ol "authority over men" argument. Rolleyes

**Naomi** · (This post was last modified: 01-06-2011 02:25 AM by Naomi.)

(01-05-2011 06:30 PM)Jordan M. Poss Wrote: Also note that I said I was speaking from my own limited and therefore subjective experiences and my understanding of the people I know.

Hey! Guess what? You all are surrounded by women here! Why not ask them what their experience and take on this is? Tongue

It's a bit weird to have an argument going on between two men about women's experiences ... surrounded by stories of actual women's experiences.

(01-06-2011 01:35 AM)Naomi Wrote: It's a bit weird to have an argument going on between two men

Ack! My bad. I didn't read Historian's post carefully enough, and was irked by Jordan's dig against Marxist scholarship.

BASSENCO · (This post was last modified: 01-06-2011 09:30 AM by BASSENCO.)

I hate cutesy stuff. My house is decorated with bookcases and Asian/British artifacts. My office is done in vintage Doctor Who.

Smith · 01-06-2011, 03:20 PM

(01-05-2011 06:30 PM)Jordan M. Poss Wrote:
(01-05-2011 07:35 AM)Historian Wrote: Actually I would say your answer is the pat, easy one. "Women just like that stuff."

That's not what I said. I just think automatically ascribing the kind of taste many Fundy--and non-Fundy--women have as some kind of top-down, Marxist-model male conspiracy to keep women placated with doilies and play-pretties leads to morbid paranoia.

Also note that I said I was speaking from my own limited and therefore subjective experiences and my understanding of the people I know. This:

Quote:The problem is when from their earliest years (as is the case in much of the fundy world) the women are encouraged in them as if that's all they can do

is not my experience. I don't doubt it's the case in some places; I'm just trying to suggest that a woman with a collection of Precious Moments figurines is not necessarily a victim of the patriarchy.

Jordan,
Ditto. Many a time it is over looked that women just like that kind of stuff and there is no one at the helm with whip in hand making sure they do girly stuff. My wife is Hello Kitty-knitting-cute-things all the way and my girls like the cute stuff too. All around campus I'm sure you see the evidences of the girly...thank goodness.

exIFB · (This post was last modified: 01-06-2011 04:36 PM by exIFB.)

My wife loves cute/romance. While I have been playing Counter Strike Zombie Escape mod for the last week, she has been watching and rewatching Sense & Sensibility (both the recent BBC and the Hugh Grant one), Pride and Prejudice (BBC and Newer movie), Emma (Gwyneth version and Kate Beckinsale made for TV version) and the entire Janette Oak series by Michael Landon Jr (which I bought her for Christmas).

My wife is not a fundmentalist. However, she did say she would have loved to have lived during that time, but she would probably be royalty, while I would be a lowly smith.

Michelle · 01-06-2011, 05:56 PM

(01-05-2011 07:35 AM)Historian Wrote: Actually I would say your answer is the pat, easy one. "Women just like that stuff."

And kittens. Soft, furry kittens. Smile

BASSENCO · 01-06-2011, 06:06 PM

(01-06-2011 05:56 PM)Michelle Wrote:
(01-05-2011 07:35 AM)Historian Wrote: Actually I would say your answer is the pat, easy one. "Women just like that stuff."

And kittens. Soft, furry kittens.

Oh kittens, sure. Especially calicos that curl up on you and purr.

Just Curious · 01-06-2011, 06:40 PM

(01-06-2011 06:06 PM)BASSENCO Wrote:
(01-06-2011 05:56 PM)Michelle Wrote: And kittens. Soft, furry kittens.
Oh kittens, sure. Especially calicos that curl up on you and purr.

"It's so FLUFFY I'm gonna DIE!"

Tonx · 08-16-2011, 05:34 PM

How about how the guys always got to talk about really racy stuff, and we were always lectured about modesty and...ugh...chastity. Seriously, we get the message. Can we talk about something else, now?

OH! And how the guys always got Lord of the Rings marathons and paintballing, but we got stuck with lame makeovers, sleepovers, and Anne of Green Gables marathons. Don't get me wrong, I actually like Anne of Green Gables. But I'm sure Anne would agree with me on this one.