Ooooh, Remember White Glove?

[Jenni]

(03-24-2011 11:20 AM)caramelcreme777 Wrote:  WOW. Just.......wow - seriously? You've got to be joking! This is illegal on so many levels. You know this had nothing to with cleanliness, and everything to do with keeping an eye on your lifestyle.

And to be sure you had no Disney movies in your home.

Yep, seriously. And I always put all my, ahem, "disney" movies in the trunk of my car during this process.

It was wrong and illegal and difficult to do anyway since it was the end of the school year and we were all still teaching AND going to all kinds of events in the evenings at school or church. Argh. But I'm out of there now and I'm the only one who will notice if I choose not to make my bed or if I don't mop the kitchen floor.

[FinallyFree]

We had white glove at Ambassador as well. I just resigned myself to get demerits at that time. This was also when you here supposed to lay all your music out on the bed to see if it checked. I stopped putting it all out after awhile

[Innocent Lamb]

Wait a minute, let me get this straight. I'm having a non-fundy culture shock moment. You mean to tell me that college staff members actually entered the dorm rooms of students who were legal adults and checked for cleanliness?? Seriously?? That is complete and utter nonsense! How did they justify this invasion of privacy? I went to a private college that only had two main dorm rules: no alcohol, and no opposite sex overnight guests. Other than those two stipulations, we were treated like ADULTS who were capable of taking care of ourselves. The staff NEVER entered our rooms. We would have revolted. My mind is blown.

[Apathetic or whatever]

At my FU, Clown College, we had daily room inspections and biannual white glove inspections.
The only demerits I ever got were for dorm duties. I had early classes a lot so I would get up and clean the sink or whatever. Crown, at that time, had dorms that were like prison barracks. Many more people were crammed into small spaces with no consideration for hygiene, sanitation or mental health.
By the time the inspector came around, 12-20 guys had used the sink to shave, brush their teeth and rinse out a mop, etc. It would look like I hadn't even cleaned it.

For the person going into fundyshock: This kind of thing is apparently the norm in fundystan. I am familiar with the inner workings of several fundy colleges and they all operate in this way. Needless to say, I am not nostalgic for this treatment. I grew up in fundystan so this behavior did not seem odd to me at the time.

[FinallyFree]

(03-24-2011 03:14 PM)Innocent Lamb Wrote:  Wait a minute, let me get this straight. I'm having a non-fundy culture shock moment. You mean to tell me that college staff members actually entered the dorm rooms of students who were legal adults and checked for cleanliness?? Seriously?? That is complete and utter nonsense! How did they justify this invasion of privacy? I went to a private college that only had two main dorm rules: no alcohol, and no opposite sex overnight guests. Other than those two stipulations, we were treated like ADULTS who were capable of taking care of ourselves. The staff NEVER entered our rooms. We would have revolted. My mind is blown.

At fundy U, students are never treated like adults. If they were, imagine all the free thinking that would go on everyday. We can't have that happening now can we?

[HazelEyed]

(03-24-2011 11:10 AM)Jenni Wrote:  I remember white glove at BJ. I actually helped check rooms one year as a GA.

Then I started teaching at an IFB school and found out that the single staff there had white glove, too. Not the married staff, just the singles. Yes, I did have to spit-polish my entire apartment by myself or face a $200 fine, which in Christian education is practically an entire paycheck.

The fact that my school thought they could enter my apartment and check to see how clean it was ... I must have been drinking the Kool-Aid when I thought that was okay.

* silent with utter shock *

Whaaaaaaa?

This is bat-s*** insane. No, really. I can't believe that.

[HazelEyed]

(03-24-2011 03:14 PM)Innocent Lamb Wrote:  Wait a minute, let me get this straight. I'm having a non-fundy culture shock moment. You mean to tell me that college staff members actually entered the dorm rooms of students who were legal adults and checked for cleanliness?? Seriously?? That is complete and utter nonsense! How did they justify this invasion of privacy? I went to a private college that only had two main dorm rules: no alcohol, and no opposite sex overnight guests. Other than those two stipulations, we were treated like ADULTS who were capable of taking care of ourselves. The staff NEVER entered our rooms. We would have revolted. My mind is blown.

At BJU they checked the rooms every single day. It was one of the little things that contributed to a complete mental and emotional melt-down for me. There was no privacy, no safe place at all. You were scrutinized on every single level. Even as a fundy I hated it, but what could you do? You were most certainly not treated like an adult. You were treated about as well as a 10-12 year old child. In some cases not even as good as that.

[supernova8610]

This... While in high school, I had a couple IFBx-er friends who were planning on going to a fundy u, GSBSC. They started telling me about what the college was like because I asked them to. When they got to the part about how dorms were regularly checked for cleanliness, and how students would get demerits for not keeping the rooms clean enough, I asked my friends why that was. I remarked that, as adults, the college ought to treat the students as such instead of regulating them in such a way; that some people are just naturally messier than others and shouldn't be penalized for it (ftr, I am a neat freak). My friends got mad at me... said that the college making sure the rooms were clean was a way to keep the students more spiritual or something.. that as Christians, students ought to be neat and organized, as a sign of spirituality. I, of course, wouldn't even listen to that... I told them it was ridiculous to regulate adult students like that so much. As expected, they got even more mad.

Luckily, one of those friends is slowly on his way out of IFBx-ism (although he married someone who's fairly IFBx... and she does not like me, but that's another story for another day). The other friend, however, is still entrenched in the IFBx lifestyle.

[Away-From-The-Umbrella]

(03-24-2011 11:10 AM)Jenni Wrote:  I remember white glove at BJ. I actually helped check rooms one year as a GA.

Then I started teaching at an IFB school and found out that the single staff there had white glove, too. Not the married staff, just the singles. Yes, I did have to spit-polish my entire apartment by myself or face a $200 fine, which in Christian education is practically an entire paycheck.

The fact that my school thought they could enter my apartment and check to see how clean it was ... I must have been drinking the Kool-Aid when I thought that was okay.

That Kool-Aid....Tis strong stuff indeed.

[Away-From-The-Umbrella]

(03-24-2011 11:10 AM)Jenni Wrote:  I remember white glove at BJ. I actually helped check rooms one year as a GA.

Then I started teaching at an IFB school and found out that the single staff there had white glove, too. Not the married staff, just the singles. Yes, I did have to spit-polish my entire apartment by myself or face a $200 fine, which in Christian education is practically an entire paycheck.

The fact that my school thought they could enter my apartment and check to see how clean it was ... I must have been drinking the Kool-Aid when I thought that was okay.

Oh, and no matter how downright crazy and controlling the church/FU's practices were, if you ever complain about it to an entrenched, brown-noser fundy the response is always, "You knew the rules when you agreed to (take that position, enroll in the college, etc.)"

Always.