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**Scorpio** · 02-23-2011, 08:53 AM

(02-23-2011 08:28 AM)greg Wrote: ....That is why I get real excited about the subject of homosexuality.....

greg, you might want to be careful how you say that. Someone could get the wrong idea about you with the way you phrased that statement. I'm just sayin'.

I have a sincere question for you that is not meant to bait you or start or continue an argument. Of all the things in the bible that are sins or abominations, why do you focus so much on homosexuality?

Again, I am not looking to start anything, I sincerely want to know why you feel that strongly about that. I promise you I will not attack anything you say. And by all means, do not feel obligated to answer the question. I will not be offended if you choose not to answer.

***Darrell*** · 02-23-2011, 08:57 AM

(02-23-2011 08:53 AM)Scorpio Wrote:
(02-23-2011 08:28 AM)greg Wrote: ....That is why I get real excited about the subject of homosexuality.....

greg, you might want to be careful how you say that. Someone could get the wrong idea about you with the way you phrased that statement. I'm just sayin'.

I have a sincere question for you that is not meant to bait you or start or continue an argument. Of all the things in the bible that are sins or abominations, why do you focus so much on homosexuality?

Again, I am not looking to start anything, I sincerely want to know why you feel that strongly about that. I promise you I will not attack anything you say. And by all means, do not feel obligated to answer the question. I will not be offended if you choose not to answer.

Maybe we should start a new thread for this?

On the other hand this one has already been beaten to death so do whatever you want. Big Grin

**LMcC** · 02-23-2011, 09:18 AM

(02-23-2011 08:57 AM)Darrell Wrote: Maybe we should start a new thread for this?

On the other hand this one has already been beaten to death so do whatever you want.

By all means start a new thread. The Great Homosexuality Debate is a notorious forum-eater. In my own experience, the old BBSes either banned the topic entirely or shoved it off in its own thread where it was the only place to talk about it. Each option has its advantages and disadvantages. Do as you see fit.

greg · 02-23-2011, 09:24 AM

(02-23-2011 08:53 AM)Scorpio Wrote:
(02-23-2011 08:28 AM)greg Wrote: ....That is why I get real excited about the subject of homosexuality.....

greg, you might want to be careful how you say that. Someone could get the wrong idea about you with the way you phrased that statement. I'm just sayin'.

I have a sincere question for you that is not meant to bait you or start or continue an argument. Of all the things in the bible that are sins or abominations, why do you focus so much on homosexuality?

Again, I am not looking to start anything, I sincerely want to know why you feel that strongly about that. I promise you I will not attack anything you say. And by all means, do not feel obligated to answer the question. I will not be offended if you choose not to answer.

Yes, I see what you mean:)Had I looked alittle more closely I'm sure I would have expresssed that differently.

I don't mind at all answering your question about homosexuality.

We have seen in our country a gradual acceptance of homosexuality, and, btw, I am just as opposed to heterosexual sin, but no one is running around on SFL screaming about wanting their rights and acceptance for committing heterosexual sins. No one is misusing scripture and trying to "prove" that hetersexual sin is ok. So often times people don't stop to listen, and they talk past one another on here, so let's pause, and consider what I just said. Does it make sense to you? I am presently overweight, I truly believe in my heart and from my understanding of the scriptures, that I am in sin, because of my apparent inability to control my weight. Should I start a political movement to have acceptance of my sin, am I running out and asking the pastor could he be alittle more sensitive to me and the rest of the fatties?

The U.S. military is now allowing homosexuals to serve openly. I would not want my son or daughter to join the military now, nor would I have wanted to serve with them, and yes I did serve. I well remember one night when a homosexual tried to take advantage of a fellow shipmate who was drunk, at some point the impaired sailor woke up and dished out a whupping to the homosexual. We now see homosexual couples being allowed to adopt children, I consider this to be child abuse. The teachings against homosexuality are crystal clear in scripture, and I will not stand by and listen to or accept anyone to act as though this is a "normal" lifestyle, when we have absolutely clear teaching from the scripture that it is not so.

I am not focused on homosexuality at all, if someone starts promoting any other sin as an appropriate way of life, I will make as much racket as I have about homosexuality.

Katerpillar · 02-23-2011, 12:39 PM

(02-23-2011 09:24 AM)greg Wrote:
(02-23-2011 08:53 AM)Scorpio Wrote: greg, you might want to be careful how you say that. Someone could get the wrong idea about you with the way you phrased that statement. I'm just sayin'.

I have a sincere question for you that is not meant to bait you or start or continue an argument. Of all the things in the bible that are sins or abominations, why do you focus so much on homosexuality?

Again, I am not looking to start anything, I sincerely want to know why you feel that strongly about that. I promise you I will not attack anything you say. And by all means, do not feel obligated to answer the question. I will not be offended if you choose not to answer.

Yes, I see what you mean:)Had I looked alittle more closely I'm sure I would have expresssed that differently.

I don't mind at all answering your question about homosexuality.

We have seen in our country a gradual acceptance of homosexuality, and, btw, I am just as opposed to heterosexual sin, but no one is running around on SFL screaming about wanting their rights and acceptance for committing heterosexual sins. No one is misusing scripture and trying to "prove" that hetersexual sin is ok. So often times people don't stop to listen, and they talk past one another on here, so let's pause, and consider what I just said. Does it make sense to you? I am presently overweight, I truly believe in my heart and from my understanding of the scriptures, that I am in sin, because of my apparent inability to control my weight. Should I start a political movement to have acceptance of my sin, am I running out and asking the pastor could he be alittle more sensitive to me and the rest of the fatties?

The U.S. military is now allowing homosexuals to serve openly. I would not want my son or daughter to join the military now, nor would I have wanted to serve with them, and yes I did serve. I well remember one night when a homosexual tried to take advantage of a fellow shipmate who was drunk, at some point the impaired sailor woke up and dished out a whupping to the homosexual. We now see homosexual couples being allowed to adopt children, I consider this to be child abuse. The teachings against homosexuality are crystal clear in scripture, and I will not stand by and listen to or accept anyone to act as though this is a "normal" lifestyle, when we have absolutely clear teaching from the scripture that it is not so.

I am not focused on homosexuality at all, if someone starts promoting any other sin as an appropriate way of life, I will make as much racket as I have about homosexuality.

Good post!!!

The Bible is so crystal clear that homosexuality is a sin. If you try to explain away the verses that say it is an abomination, then you could pretty much explain away the rest of the Bible, and then what are we left with? Nothing but opinions...

Tony Mel · 02-23-2011, 12:45 PM

I am sure some people are born with homosexual tendencies, yet I do not believe this justifies a homosexual lifestyle just as being born with a tendency to be pragmatic have justification to lie or cheat.

I believe the Bible condemns a homosexual lifestyle.

Katerpillar · 02-23-2011, 12:56 PM

(02-23-2011 12:45 PM)Tony Mel Wrote: I am sure some people are born with homosexual tendencies, yet I do not believe this justifies a homosexual lifestyle just as being born with a tendency to be pragmatic have justification to lie or cheat.

I believe the Bible condemns a homosexual lifestyle.

I can agree with this. We are all born sinners, in a fallen world. A homosexual can't change himself, but if he accepts Jesus Christ, he will be able to have victory over those fleshly desires, and he can be a new creature. Smile

fundyvangelicalcatholic · 02-23-2011, 01:18 PM

Sin is sin. Why do people make such a big deal about homosexuality? I am with Greg that sex outside of wedlock is sin according to God. But it is just that - sin. Just like lying, stealing, etc, etc are sin.

Jesus LOVED the sinner. We can show love AND ACCEPT someone who we feel may be in sin (hate the sin, love the sinner), but God is the judge of that person and not us. If the "sinner" truly wants our opinion and asks for it, then I will share my opinion in a loving fashion. A co-worker of mine came out to me and asked me what I thought about it. I told him that I believe he has chosen a difficult lifestyle to lead. He talks openly about his relationships with me and has asked me numerous questions about my faith. My mandate as a Christian is to be an example of Jesus, not to PLAY Jesus.

The fundy belief is to beat the Bible over the head of someone we believe is sinning. Jesus HIMSELF did not do that. Are we better than Jesus? Are we more righteous than Jesus?

Who openly judged people? The Pharisees. Jesus told the Pharisees that "he who is without sin cast the first stone". Jesus did not condone the women's action that was standing there ready to be murdered in front of the Pharisees. Jesus simply stood up for her against other sinners who have no right to stone someone since they themselves are sinners.

There seems to be truly righteous indignation by some posting in here towards fellow posters they believe to be in sin. Unless someone on this board is a money changer, I will save the judgement for Jesus.

fundyvangelicalcatholic · 02-23-2011, 01:35 PM

@Donb123 - There were examples in the Bible, but they were qualified by being IN the Bible. How in the world can we qualify a prophet in today's culture? By yours, mine, or 250 denominations opinion of what the Bible says or does not say about qualifications of a prophet?

It is wiser to follow Jesus example than a so called "prophet" by subjective standards.

Tony Mel · 02-23-2011, 01:52 PM

(02-23-2011 01:23 PM)Donb123 Wrote: Maybe it is somebody's job to call out sins that are public and notorious... I don't know. I know for most people that method doesn't seem to work and it just p1sses everyone else off. But who are we to judge how God will use a person?

With the Scriptures as the "more sure word of prophecy," I believe it is the Christian's prerogative to accurately represent what it says about all things, in their respective proportions.