(02-24-2011 08:27 PM)JLL Wrote: As a real live, board-certified homosexual, I can safely say that I never recall making a "choice" to be gay. I always ask straight men, when did you choose to be straight? (Did you mull it over for a while before deciding that was the way to go?) But that's just me. If there's one thing I've come to realize over the years it's that sexuality is a lot more fluid and a lot less black and white than some people think. I don't feel I had a choice; other might have. I'm not them, and I certainly don't presume to have all the answers.
I certainly don't want "special rights and privileges." But if I have to pay taxes, why shouldn't I be able to defend my country? Where's the proof that gay couples adopting children is "child abuse?" There's plenty of straight people who probably shouldn't be raising children too. Don't believe in gay marriage? Don't get one--but please don't tell me I can't. I might not believe in your church, but I wouldn't dream of leading a crusade to stop you from building yours. Heterosexual couples can run off to Vegas on a whim and get married, then they get all the tax breaks, hospital visitation rights, inheritance rights, etc. but a lesbian couple together for 30 years cannot? We do live in a secular nation. Like it or not, the law of the land is the constitution and not the Bible. Sorry. Want a theocracy? Whose? The Catholics? The Lutherans? IFB? From what I remember from history class, trying to do all that never did work out too well--google "Crusades" or "Spanish Inquisition."
But I certainly don't expect the First Baptist Church to perform my wedding if I ever want to get married. I wouldn't expect to get a job at the General Council of the Assemblies of God, either. If you run a religious organization that believes homosexuality is a sin, I really don't expect you to accommodate me. But can you leave us alone for a while? Introduce legislation to ban all fast foods because it's "infecting our society" with the sin of gluttony. Ban divorce--Jesus had a lot more to say about that, did he not? Isn't there a whole list of people who won't enter the kingdom of heaven for one reason or another? What about them and their "abominations?" How about people who gossip? Can we marginalize them for a while? 'Cause honey, I'm tired!
I'm sure you don't because people in general don't have recall before age 3, so the "I don't remember choosing" argument is really nonsense. Also, while I'm on my soapbox....Sodom wasn't destroyed for gluttony, divorce, being cross-eyed, etc., being a card-carrying heterosexual and with sane mind and body...what pushed the Angel(s) over the edge and brought the havoc of judgement was wanting to "know" the male angels.