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Film Society Votes Out Citizen Kane
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08-03-2012, 04:32 PM
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Film Society Votes Out Citizen Kane
Every ten years this British society gets together and culls the opinions of experts as to which is the most significant movie of all-time. This year, for the first time in decades, the reigning champion "Citizen Kane" is dethroned. Hitchcock's Vertigo (1958) has taken over the top spot, and noted critic Ebert agrees with the decision:
http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/14...ction.html While I have no problem with the dethroning of Kane, I don't feel that Hitchcock's works rank up there as cinematic pieces. They are all excellent entertainment with skillful mechanisms in place, but they just aren't the epitome of the art form. I remember being very disappointed in Rear Window years ago after hearing how great it was. Though I've never seen Vertigo, I've seen enough Hitchcock to form an opinion on him. Very good; not cerebral; not instantly recognizable as art. Given the criteria for the impact that the film has had on cinema as well as the artistry of the project, I don't see how 2001 isn't the clear favorite. 2001 was cerebral, layered, and epic in scope. It paved the way for special effects-laden films which would come after, particularly Star Wars. What do you think about Vertigo or the honor in general? |
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08-04-2012, 02:59 PM
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RE: Film Society Votes Out Citizen Kane
Citizen Kane is a shitty storyline. The only thing special about that movie was how it told the story through various techniques.
"ABRAHAM DIED FOR YOUR LOX AND MATZO BALLS!" |
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08-04-2012, 03:41 PM
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RE: Film Society Votes Out Citizen Kane
It has pterodactyls in it. Citizen Kane does. Not even kidding.
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08-04-2012, 04:32 PM
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RE: Film Society Votes Out Citizen Kane
I've never seen Citizen Kane. Every time I think I probably should just because it's one of those movies you're supposed to watch, I just think "eh." I have seen Vertigo. It's quite, quite good.
Forget the fear/it's just a crutch/that tries to hold you back/and turn your dreams to dust. |
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08-04-2012, 04:49 PM
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RE: Film Society Votes Out Citizen Kane
If you ever have to take a film class or even a general arts class that covers film, it's very likely you will be forced to watch it. I about fell asleep until I remembered that I had to write a paper on the effectiveness of the techniques.
"ABRAHAM DIED FOR YOUR LOX AND MATZO BALLS!" |
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08-04-2012, 05:23 PM
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RE: Film Society Votes Out Citizen Kane
I love Citizen Kane. God's wrath will fall upon the UK for this transgression.
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08-04-2012, 07:14 PM
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RE: Film Society Votes Out Citizen Kane
(08-04-2012 04:49 PM)lucrezaborgia Wrote: If you ever have to take a film class or even a general arts class that covers film, it's very likely you will be forced to watch it. I about fell asleep until I remembered that I had to write a paper on the effectiveness of the techniques. That's really the reason it crosses my mind every so often to watch it. I know it was a significant film in the realm of cinematography, etc. It's just on the level with Catcher in the Rye for me: seems like a terribly over-rated mediocre story that's better through the lens of nostalgia. Forget the fear/it's just a crutch/that tries to hold you back/and turn your dreams to dust. |
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08-04-2012, 10:24 PM
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RE: Film Society Votes Out Citizen Kane
(08-04-2012 07:14 PM)dramaturge Wrote:(08-04-2012 04:49 PM)lucrezaborgia Wrote: If you ever have to take a film class or even a general arts class that covers film, it's very likely you will be forced to watch it. I about fell asleep until I remembered that I had to write a paper on the effectiveness of the techniques. Citizen Kane is totally over-rated. Catcher in the Rye, not so much. 
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08-05-2012, 09:10 PM
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RE: Film Society Votes Out Citizen Kane
(08-04-2012 02:59 PM)lucrezaborgia Wrote: Citizen Kane is a shitty storyline. Its the life of William Randolph Hearst. I adore both films... but my issue with VERTIGO is the sexism. And its that creepy "remote" (cold) Hitchcock sexism, which has always left me uneasy. Citizen Kane was always waaaaay ahead of its time in that category: Kane: Don't go, Susan. You mustn't go. You can't do this to me. Susan: I see. So it's YOU who this is being done to. It's not me at all. Not how I feel. Not what it means to me. (pause) Susan: I can't do this to you? (pause) Susan: Oh, yes I can. I love Orson Welles, have read books about him, etc. I also love his film "Touch of Evil" a whole lot. I wish he and Rita Hayworth had not divorced.  In "Touch of Evil" his character carries a cane... a reference to Kane. Off the record, on the QT and very hush-hush |
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