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Source of comfort?
07-30-2012, 07:49 AM
Post: #41
RE: Source of comfort?
That was my take on it too. If you don't want believers defending their beliefs, then don't ask them questions about their beliefs in the safespaces. Sounds like Daisy just wanted to stir up trouble and then cry foul when people answered her questions. Hey Daisy, if you don't want people to talk about their beliefs, don't ask them direct questions about their beliefs. Nobody is fooled.

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07-30-2012, 08:03 AM
Post: #42
RE: Source of comfort?
I actually don't mind the comments from the believers here. I like good discussion/debate, even if it gets a little heated. Frankly, it would be a little boring only speaking to people who agree with me. So, no beef here. Just my thoughts on the subject.
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07-30-2012, 01:42 PM (This post was last modified: 07-30-2012 01:44 PM by DaisyDeadhead.)
Post: #43
RE: Source of comfort?
I don't mind the participation, but I don't like them starting threads here, since as I said, WE would get it with both barrels if WE started a thread in THEIR forum. Darrell says as much.

Or does he?

(07-29-2012 07:44 PM)Darrell Wrote:  Actually, going back in the thread I see it was Daisy herself who posted the first direct question back to the person who started the thread as to HIS beliefs as a believer.

Since that question was asking for a believer to share their point of view it should have been posed in the General Theology forum instead of in the non-believer safespace. Up until that point the thread was perfectly fine and in keeping with the general "spirit of the law" of safespaces.

Okay, so I can start a thread with questions critical of Christianity in the believer forum? Yes or no? Just a straight answer, please.

Because as I said, I know how.

(07-30-2012 07:49 AM)leaving Wrote:  That was my take on it too. If you don't want believers defending their beliefs, then don't ask them questions about their beliefs in the safespaces. Sounds like Daisy just wanted to stir up trouble and then cry foul when people answered her questions. Hey Daisy, if you don't want people to talk about their beliefs, don't ask them direct questions about their beliefs. Nobody is fooled.

Are you kidding? Is this a joke? ALL of you have been fooled. Like, for DECADES. As a consequence, you have no critical-thinking skills at all.

If you haven't been fooled, what are you doing here on this forum? I think you freely admit you were fooled, don't you?

For the record, my only problem is the double standard. Can I start a thread in the Believer safe space if I phrase it ultra-politely? I don't care if people respond to me nicely or whatever.

But the fact is, I learned a long time ago that fundy Christians (past or present) are not nice. Remember, a few months ago I had a whole hate page about me on Facebook, actually threatening my life. I know exactly who you are. Nobody is fooled, is right.

I treat you all like very hungry tigers.

I am afraid of you to the extent that I use a pseudonym for protection, here in BJU-ville.

No indeed, nobody is fooled. Least of all me.

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07-30-2012, 01:44 PM (This post was last modified: 07-30-2012 01:44 PM by Darrell.)
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RE: Source of comfort?
Quote:Okay, so I can start a thread with questions critical of Christianity in the believer forum? Yes or no? Just a straight answer, please.

I'll repeat myself. You can ask honest questions but if you're looking to start a debate then please do it in General Theology.

This thread started with an honest question and a good discussion...until you provoked a debate. I'd appreciate it if we kept that in the forum that's designated for debate.

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07-30-2012, 03:02 PM (This post was last modified: 07-30-2012 03:04 PM by fundyvangelicalcatholic.)
Post: #45
RE: Source of comfort?
As the offender who created this thread, it was an honest question posed to non-beilievers. I deal with lots of situation in the professional world in which the topic of religion comes up and I wanted the take of non-believers on this issue.

I have Jewish friends and we have shared deep discussion on faith and different issues.

Unfortunately, most people that are friends classified as "non-believers" are apathetic towards religion and don't really offer any insight. The non-believers in this safe space are well reasoned/spoken and offer good insight. If we were all local to each other, this would be great bar room conversation.

I apologize that this topic has veered into "defend your positioin". This wasn't my intention.

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07-30-2012, 03:16 PM
Post: #46
RE: Source of comfort?
If it helps any, fundyv, I didn't see any intent in your question other than what you have stated here. I didn't see this question as an intrusion in any way, which is why I answered your question far differently than I answered a post by greg in the same section. I don't see any reason for you to apologize to me or anyone else here.

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08-01-2012, 04:04 PM
Post: #47
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(07-30-2012 01:42 PM)DaisyDeadhead Wrote:  ALL of you have been fooled. Like, for DECADES. As a consequence, you have no critical-thinking skills at all.

Actually, many of us were born into it and knew no different. As we grew into teenagers and young adults with the ability to think rather critically, we left (mentally, if not physically--it's a cult, after all, and difficult to leave as a child). It's a broad brush here--too broad to paint us accurately, I think.
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08-02-2012, 09:04 AM
Post: #48
RE: Source of comfort?
(07-30-2012 01:42 PM)DaisyDeadhead Wrote:  I don't mind the participation, but I don't like them starting threads here, since as I said, WE would get it with both barrels if WE started a thread in THEIR forum. Darrell says as much.

Or does he?

(07-29-2012 07:44 PM)Darrell Wrote:  Actually, going back in the thread I see it was Daisy herself who posted the first direct question back to the person who started the thread as to HIS beliefs as a believer.

Since that question was asking for a believer to share their point of view it should have been posed in the General Theology forum instead of in the non-believer safespace. Up until that point the thread was perfectly fine and in keeping with the general "spirit of the law" of safespaces.

Okay, so I can start a thread with questions critical of Christianity in the believer forum? Yes or no? Just a straight answer, please.

Because as I said, I know how.

(07-30-2012 07:49 AM)leaving Wrote:  That was my take on it too. If you don't want believers defending their beliefs, then don't ask them questions about their beliefs in the safespaces. Sounds like Daisy just wanted to stir up trouble and then cry foul when people answered her questions. Hey Daisy, if you don't want people to talk about their beliefs, don't ask them direct questions about their beliefs. Nobody is fooled.

Are you kidding? Is this a joke? ALL of you have been fooled. Like, for DECADES. As a consequence, you have no critical-thinking skills at all.

If you haven't been fooled, what are you doing here on this forum? I think you freely admit you were fooled, don't you?

For the record, my only problem is the double standard. Can I start a thread in the Believer safe space if I phrase it ultra-politely? I don't care if people respond to me nicely or whatever.

But the fact is, I learned a long time ago that fundy Christians (past or present) are not nice. Remember, a few months ago I had a whole hate page about me on Facebook, actually threatening my life. I know exactly who you are. Nobody is fooled, is right.

I treat you all like very hungry tigers.

I am afraid of you to the extent that I use a pseudonym for protection, here in BJU-ville.

No indeed, nobody is fooled. Least of all me.

My FIRST posts on here were defending you when the Daisy FB page started and I know many of the believers here defended you. You can go to my page and see where you left me positive feedback for those comments.

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