Exodus International gets a clue.

[just_a_thinker]

It appears that even Exodus International has finally caught onto the fact that "pray away the gay" doesn't work. It will be interesting to see how much (if any) of an impact this will make on organizations like Focus on the Family who for years have based their arguments on "studies" that show that sexual orientation is a choice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/07/us/a-l...wanted=all

(Bracing for Greg to show up and say "thus sayeth the lord" when giving his own very negative opinion)

[lucrezaborgia]

Their own studies proved this...oh wait...

[leaving]

I'm actually glad they are realizing they were wrong and admitting it. It's a refreshing change for someone to admit it. I know they have caused a lot of damage, but I always find it easier to forgive when someone has admitted they were wrong.

[just_a_thinker]

(07-07-2012 07:02 PM)leaving Wrote:  I'm actually glad they are realizing they were wrong and admitting it. It's a refreshing change for someone to admit it. I know they have caused a lot of damage, but I always find it easier to forgive when someone has admitted they were wrong.

It's definitely a step in the right direction! It's a little concerning though that they still use services that utilize such "therapy", apparently it is just the official view that such "therapy" is harmful.

[leaving]

(07-07-2012 07:51 PM)just_a_thinker Wrote:  

(07-07-2012 07:02 PM)leaving Wrote:  I'm actually glad they are realizing they were wrong and admitting it. It's a refreshing change for someone to admit it. I know they have caused a lot of damage, but I always find it easier to forgive when someone has admitted they were wrong.

It's definitely a step in the right direction! It's a little concerning though that they still use services that utilize such "therapy", apparently it is just the official view that such "therapy" is harmful.

Maybe this is just the first step towards meaningful change?

[just_a_thinker]

(07-07-2012 08:03 PM)leaving Wrote:  

(07-07-2012 07:51 PM)just_a_thinker Wrote:  It's definitely a step in the right direction! It's a little concerning though that they still use services that utilize such "therapy", apparently it is just the official view that such "therapy" is harmful.

Maybe this is just the first step towards meaningful change?

Let's hope so!

[RobMille]

Good for Chambers, I hope he can re-make Exodus into something able to accomplish some good for people.

[Ricardo]

We've got to be careful not to misunderstand what Exodus has said:

Reparative Therapy doesn't work. There doesn't seem to be a way of "praying away the Gay."

They are not saying it is OK to be gay. They are not saying God loves gays. They are not supporting Gay marriage.

They are still saying that Gay men cannot in any way, shape or form express their love for another man.

[Naomi]

(07-07-2012 09:00 PM)RobMille Wrote:  Good for Chambers, I hope he can re-make Exodus into something able to accomplish some good for people.

Maybe they could disband and all go join the Gay Christian Network? Where people are supported no matter their beliefs about how God wants them to live (celibate, partnered, etc.).

[greg]

So ONE guy changes his mind, wow! Was it even worth a story? I was expecting alot more.

Thousands upon thousands have been helped out of the sinful, homosexual lifestyle, and are living wonderful, vibrant, natural lives, one man or woman or a hundred changing their minds, won't change the facts! And the fact is that folks can be helped out of this lifestyle, and thousands have!

I also, again, cite the very first longitudinal, peer reviewed scientific study of it kind (Ex-Gay? A longitudinal study of religiously-mediated change in Sexual Orientation) regarding how folks change their "orientation" and the study emphatically concluded that not only can folks "change" the study also concluded that such changes cause no psychological harm.

The study was published in the "Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy" in Oct 2011