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calvinism & the ESV
06-12-2012, 04:32 PM
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RE: calvinism & the ESV
(06-12-2012 04:06 PM)Naomi Wrote:  Paul, I read the Rachel Held Evans article and leaving's whole post makes a lot more sense if you've also read that. She was talking generally, not directed at you at all, I'm pretty sure. RHE really did have a great extended discussion on her blog about all these things this past week and I'd recommend it for much more depth.

I agree that complementarianism is benevolent sexism, and it has all the same recognized issues and downsides for women. Patriarchy may be hostile sexism, but the benevolent kind is damaging as well, in sometimes less obvious ways. Leaving's point makes sense, right? More conservative Christians (most 'Reformed' types fall on this side) tend to be women-submit Christians, in a variety of different flavors. That's not surprising, is it?

This has been my point. A benevolent sexist is still sexist, and complementarianism requires sexism in order to be complementarianism. It doesn't matter whether sexism is "benevolent" or otherwise, it still devalues women and still negatively affects us, so you can't expect those of us who are egalitarian or feminist to be excited about one's "freedom"to be a sexist of any variety.
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calvinism & the ESV - greg - 06-11-2012, 04:51 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - leaving - 06-11-2012, 05:36 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - That'sWhatItSays - 06-11-2012, 06:14 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Presbygirl - 06-11-2012, 06:26 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - RobMille - 06-12-2012, 07:03 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Scorpio - 06-12-2012, 07:04 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - captain_solo - 06-12-2012, 07:40 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Darrell - 06-12-2012, 08:01 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - leaving - 06-12-2012, 08:15 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - greg - 06-12-2012, 01:57 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Darrell - 06-12-2012, 08:26 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Presbygirl - 06-12-2012, 08:43 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - leaving - 06-12-2012, 08:44 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Presbygirl - 06-12-2012, 08:48 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - leaving - 06-12-2012, 08:55 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - redbeardiam - 06-12-2012, 09:22 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - leaving - 06-12-2012, 08:49 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Presbygirl - 06-12-2012, 09:15 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - That'sWhatItSays - 06-12-2012, 10:58 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - leaving - 06-12-2012, 11:11 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Darrell - 06-12-2012, 02:05 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - greg - 06-12-2012, 02:23 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - paul - 06-12-2012, 02:22 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - leaving - 06-12-2012, 02:37 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - paul - 06-12-2012, 03:12 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - leaving - 06-12-2012, 03:43 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - paul - 06-12-2012, 04:10 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Darrell - 06-12-2012, 02:27 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - greg - 06-12-2012, 02:35 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Darrell - 06-12-2012, 02:52 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Presbygirl - 06-12-2012, 03:09 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - redbeardiam - 06-12-2012, 03:47 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - leaving - 06-12-2012, 02:39 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - redbeardiam - 06-12-2012, 03:00 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Darrell - 06-12-2012, 03:02 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Darrell - 06-12-2012, 03:16 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Presbygirl - 06-12-2012, 03:20 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Scorpio - 06-13-2012, 06:28 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - captain_solo - 06-17-2012, 06:51 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Naomi - 06-12-2012, 04:06 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - leaving - 06-12-2012 04:32 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Presbygirl - 06-12-2012, 04:12 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Tooktheredpill - 06-12-2012, 04:12 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - leaving - 06-12-2012, 04:29 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Tooktheredpill - 06-12-2012, 04:27 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - leaving - 06-12-2012, 04:33 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - paul - 06-12-2012, 04:32 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Mommy2Kids - 06-15-2012, 10:58 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - That'sWhatItSays - 06-16-2012, 11:56 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - greg - 06-17-2012, 07:52 AM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - Ricardo - 06-17-2012, 11:00 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - That'sWhatItSays - 06-17-2012, 12:23 PM
RE: calvinism & the ESV - redbeardiam - 06-17-2012, 01:18 PM

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