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bmasters1981 · 06-07-2012, 05:20 AM

Why do fundamentalists think that if your Good Book does not read "walketh" instead of "walks," "doeth" instead of "does," or other similar things, it is a "per-version" and must be gotten rid of? I mean, after all, we would never say to fundamentalists, "Get rid of your KJVs," so why do they not see fit to grant us the same liberty WRT non-KJVs?

**Tiarali** · (This post was last modified: 06-07-2012 06:03 AM by Tiarali.)

1. They need to have an exclusive club to belong to. Having the 'right' book, while most christians use the 'wrong' book, means that anybody who is dissatisfied with their church will be less likely to leave because it's scary to go to a less than perfect church (where your children will be lead astray and you'll incur the wrath of God).

2. They need to keep the language of the bible inaccessible to most members of the church. The church I went to had a high rate of people actually reading the bible - in order for them to keep accepting the fundies' nonsense, the pastors need to make sure the people can't actually understand the bible they are reading.

3. It is normal for a fundy pastor to base a whole sermon on one or two verses taken completely out of context. Hear the pastor's interpretation of individual verses too many times, and those words will immediately conjure up a reminder of the pastor's explanation of the verse, stopping anybody from reading that verse with fresh eyes. Read the same verse in a different version, with different words, and the memory isn't so strong; it's possible the reader will actually learn.

bmasters1981 · 06-07-2012, 06:23 AM

(06-07-2012 06:02 AM)tiarali Wrote: 1. They need to have an exclusive club to belong to. Having the 'right' book, while most christians use the 'wrong' book, means that anybody who is dissatisfied with their church will be less likely to leave because it's scary to go to a less than perfect church (where your children will be lead astray and you'll incur the wrath of God).

2. They need to keep the language of the bible inaccessible to most members of the church. The church I went to had a high rate of people actually reading the bible - in order for them to keep accepting the fundies' nonsense, the pastors need to make sure the people can't actually understand the bible they are reading.

3. It is normal for a fundy pastor to base a whole sermon on one or two verses taken completely out of context. Hear the pastor's interpretation of individual verses too many times, and those words will immediately conjure up a reminder of the pastor's explanation of the verse, stopping anybody from reading that verse with fresh eyes. Read the same verse in a different version, with different words, and the memory isn't so strong; it's possible the reader will actually learn.

Good thinking! All three of these are why I've been afraid to read the Good Book lately (the version I use the most is the NASB). I mean, as I said before, if we said to a fundamentalist, "Get rid of your KJV," it would be only right for them to fire back. We don't, however, yet they still fire this "per-version" bullsmoke at us about getting rid of non-KJVs.

**Tiarali** · 06-07-2012, 06:34 AM

I used to avoid the bible like anything. I have started enjoying reading the Psalms in the Message, though.

captain_solo · 06-07-2012, 07:55 AM

Its much easier to make the Bible mean what you want it to when no one (including yourself) is able to actually understand what it means.

**pastor's wife** · 06-07-2012, 08:26 AM

4. Also, some of them are terrified of information like "this verse isn't in the original manuscripts". They can't handle that so they choose to ignore it. By choosing to believe that the KJV is perfection itself, any news about the original manuscripts can be ignored. They truly can't handle the truth.

5. In addition, this belief of theirs seems to justify their indulging their flesh in showing irritation, pride, anger, judgmentalism, and condemnation toward other believers. I've rarely seen a KJVO person humbly with deep love and compassion express their sincere concern that you are studying a "false" Bible; instead they use their fervent belief in the KJV to berate and belittle you and to scorn and demonize other versions and the translators of those versions. They give themselves an automatic excuse to sin: "I'm allowed to rant and rave, to hold grudges, to be spiteful, BECAUSE you're 'desecrating' the Holy Word of God." They think they're standing up for God so they get a pass on being nasty in defense of it.

It's so easy for us to be rude and selfish and mean, but when we give ourselves an excuse - especially a "holy" one like thinking we're defending God Himself against the enemy - it's so tempting to give in to our baser desires and fool ourselves into thinking our very temper tantrums are righteous because we're "standing up for God."

Ricardo · 06-07-2012, 08:37 AM

It is only natural to want to be told what to believe in.

Especially since Luther went ahead and rejected the authority of the Pope and the authority of the church.

Now, we need to create another authority.

I was blessed growing up in Costa Rica, where God's work correctly says "caminar" rather than "walketh" or "walks." And the Reina Valera version is at lest 70 years OLDER than the KJV!

Jenni · 06-07-2012, 08:39 AM

I actually knew of a missionary family in Mexico whose support was dropped when the supporting church found out that the Spanish translation of the Bible they were using was translated from the Greek and Hebrew and not from the KJV. Rolleyes

greg · 06-07-2012, 11:00 AM

(06-07-2012 08:39 AM)Jenni Wrote: I actually knew of a missionary family in Mexico whose support was dropped when the supporting church found out that the Spanish translation of the Bible they were using was translated from the Greek and Hebrew and not from the KJV.

WOW!

WanderingTraveler · 06-07-2012, 12:54 PM

(06-07-2012 08:39 AM)Jenni Wrote: I actually knew of a missionary family in Mexico whose support was dropped when the supporting church found out that the Spanish translation of the Bible they were using was translated from the Greek and Hebrew and not from the KJV.

There was a girl in on of my Spanish classes that asked if the 1960 Reina Valera we were required to have was a Translation of tue KJV. The teacher just looked at her and said, no, it is pretty had to translate the KJV into Spanish.