It happened again.

[Elijah Craig]

(04-23-2012 12:03 PM)Hollandmichigan Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 11:55 AM)Elijah Craig Wrote:  Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you're a dumbass.

Oh, im not offended at all. Kind of hard to be when you're being insulted by a neanderthal with sub-human intelligence.

My sister is a CPA and tax attorney from a very prestigious law school who works for a top-ranked firm in Georgetown. Or she did. She's a housewife now because her husband makes bank and she just doesn't feel like fighting the traffic.

My most recent ex-girlfriend was an attorney who at the time we started dating made about 50% more than I did as an IT manager.

Another ex-girlfriend is an industrial hygenist who started out at $80k in 1997.

A girl I used to like and who liked me has a PhD in economics and has worked for the IMF and the Gates Foundation.

I am attracted to smart educated women, and they are attracted to me.

I do know, and am friends with girls who are currently working or have worked as strippers, and with girls who trade sex for drugs. Quite frankly, if you think prostitutes want to be selling themselves, you are fuck dumb or you are one yourself (or dating one) and are in deep denial.

[Hollandmichigan]

(04-23-2012 12:09 PM)Elijah Craig Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 12:03 PM)Hollandmichigan Wrote:  Oh, im not offended at all. Kind of hard to be when you're being insulted by a neanderthal with sub-human intelligence.

My sister is a CPA and tax attorney from a very prestigious law school who works for a top-ranked firm in Georgetown. Or she did. She's a housewife now because her husband makes bank and she just doesn't feel like fighting the traffic.

My most recent ex-girlfriend was an attorney who at the time we started dating made about 50% more than I did as an IT manager.

Another ex-girlfriend is an industrial hygenist who started out at $80k in 1997.

A girl I used to like and who liked me has a PhD in economics and has worked for the IMF and the Gates Foundation.

I am attracted to smart educated women, and they are attracted to me.

I do know, and am friends with girls who are currently working or have worked as strippers, and with girls who trade sex for drugs. Quite frankly, if you think prostitutes want to be selling themselves, you are fuck dumb or you are one yourself (or dating one) and are in deep denial.

Oh my, i must have struck a nerve in that lump of stool you call a brain when i suggested you can't get women. So your sister was already highly successful when she married and decided to become a housewife. How is that relevant? And your ex-girlfriends (who apparently regained their senses at some point) ear ed more money and were more educated than you. How are they relevant? None of these ladies are exactly stopping in their tracks to find a prince charming to take care of them. And as for sex workers: not all are women, and not all are addicted to drugs, and yes, many do enjoy their work. Especially where that work is legal and regulated (like in columbia, where those secret service agents were busted for not paying up). And not all sex workers are prostitutes.

Exhibit A:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aGi431LjHB8

[Elijah Craig]

No, you didn't strike a nerve. I've been getting numbers and Facebook friendships left and right by women. But obviously I struck a nerve with you and you're trying to project your insecurities onto me.

My sister was already married with children when she decided to go to law school. She worked 2-3 years to pay off the loans and then became a housewife. She regrets having gone to law school, it was something she did just to be able to say she did it but in retrospect realizes she missed out much of her daughter's childhood. You have no idea why me and any of my exes broke up.

So tell me, why are you so adamant about defending the practice of prostitution that you call someone a "neanderthal with sub-human intelligence?" Everything I said is pretty much orthodox sociology and the figures on male v. female earning potential is easily verifiable from the US Census Bureau and Bureau of Labor Statistics. There is nothing really controversial with what I said, it is accepted by probably over 80-90% of Americans. The medical establishment in every country recognizes sex work as being tremendously damaging to both a person's psychology and their physical health.

Why did you lash out like that? Are you a prostitute or have you worked as one?

[Hollandmichigan]

(04-23-2012 12:43 PM)Elijah Craig Wrote:  No, you didn't strike a nerve. I've been getting numbers and Facebook friendships left and right by women. But obviously I struck a nerve with you and you're trying to project your insecurities onto me.

My sister was already married with children when she decided to go to law school. She worked 2-3 years to pay off the loans and then became a housewife. She regrets having gone to law school, it was something she did just to be able to say she did it but in retrospect realizes she missed out much of her daughter's childhood. You have no idea why me and any of my exes broke up.

So tell me, why are you so adamant about defending the practice of prostitution that you call someone a "neanderthal with sub-human intelligence?" Everything I said is pretty much orthodox sociology and the figures on male v. female earning potential is easily verifiable from the US Census Bureau and Bureau of Labor Statistics. There is nothing really controversial with what I said, it is accepted by probably over 80-90% of Americans. The medical establishment in every country recognizes sex work as being tremendously damaging to both a person's psychology and their physical health.

Why did you lash out like that? Are you a prostitute or have you worked as one?

Oh please, I pissed you off with that joke about being a bachelor and you've been defending your ability to get laid ever since. But yes, you did strike a nerve--stupidity, ignorance and a bullying attitude tend to have that effect on me. I challenged your notion that women see marriage primarily as an avenue for security, which is backward and disgustingly sexist, yet you haven't been able been able to defend it at all. Your sister has regrets about atte ding a Prestigious law school? Somehow i find that hard to believe, but considering the background she obviously comes from i can see how she might be made to feel that way. The point is that women can take care of themselves, many people do not even want marriage anymore, your 19th century view of women and marriage is pathetic. I am not defendi g the "practice" of prostitution. Its a fact of life, people have sex for money, some people work in pornagraphy--a multi-billion dollar business that many americans obviously enjoy--many people enjoy the work and make great money doing it. Many Put the selves through school doing it. The only time trouble comes is when obnoxious moralists keeP it criminialized and therefore deregulated. I did not call you a neanderthal because im adamant about defending prostitution-- you are quite frankly just that stupid. You are obviously a typical middle class american basically garunteed a college education who knows nothing about what its like ti survive on their own or to have come from a lower class background. And you therefore hide your insecurities in pseudo-intellectual babble and false concern. Been there, done that, know what its like. But no, im not a sex-worker, sadly i dont think many people find a stocky 6'5" male all that appealing. But if i was i would not be ashamed of it at all, looks like really good money and the people i've seen in the buis. seem to enjoy it.

-edited spelling errors

[Elijah Craig]

(04-23-2012 01:37 PM)Hollandmichigan Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 12:43 PM)Elijah Craig Wrote:  No, you didn't strike a nerve. I've been getting numbers and Facebook friendships left and right by women. But obviously I struck a nerve with you and you're trying to project your insecurities onto me.

My sister was already married with children when she decided to go to law school. She worked 2-3 years to pay off the loans and then became a housewife. She regrets having gone to law school, it was something she did just to be able to say she did it but in retrospect realizes she missed out much of her daughter's childhood. You have no idea why me and any of my exes broke up.

So tell me, why are you so adamant about defending the practice of prostitution that you call someone a "neanderthal with sub-human intelligence?" Everything I said is pretty much orthodox sociology and the figures on male v. female earning potential is easily verifiable from the US Census Bureau and Bureau of Labor Statistics. There is nothing really controversial with what I said, it is accepted by probably over 80-90% of Americans. The medical establishment in every country recognizes sex work as being tremendously damaging to both a person's psychology and their physical health.

Why did you lash out like that? Are you a prostitute or have you worked as one?

Oh please, I pissed you off with that joke about being a bachelor and you've been defending your ability to get laid ever since.

No, I just enjoy drawing the anger and twisted thinking out of people like you when they attack for no good reason. Engaging you on points would be pretty foolish because you don't have anything but invective. So I just let you throw out a bunch of invective and presumptions about me until you're thoroughly discredited in the eyes of pretty much all the readers.

I grew up in a dysfunctional family on a dirt road in central West Virginia. We had a well. We chopped firewood for heat. I only saw my dad on weekends for years because he had to work out of state to provide for us. I got in fist fights at my elementary school because when I got a new pair of (not brand name) tennis shoes the welfare kids were jealous. The unemployment rate was over 30% in my county. Some of my neighbors had livestock that lived in their house. My sister and I were blessed with a natural intelligence that allowed us to claw our way out of poverty into upper middle (and in her case, upper) class American life. I live in the same town I was born and every day I see people who were not so blessed.

Tell me again how I can't get a date and don't know what it's like to be poor.

I think I've succeeded at my goal and am done now. You may have the last word.

[Hollandmichigan]

(04-23-2012 01:43 PM)Elijah Craig Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 01:37 PM)Hollandmichigan Wrote:  Oh please, I pissed you off with that joke about being a bachelor and you've been defending your ability to get laid ever since.

No, I just enjoy drawing the anger and twisted thinking out of people like you when they attack for no good reason. Engaging you on points would be pretty foolish because you don't have anything but invective. So I just let you throw out a bunch of invective and presumptions about me until you're thoroughly discredited in the eyes of pretty much all the readers.

I grew up in a dysfunctional family on a dirt road in central West Virginia. We had a well. We chopped firewood for heat. I only saw my dad on weekends for years because he had to work out of state to provide for us. I got in fist fights at my elementary school because when I got a new pair of (not brand name) tennis shoes the welfare kids were jealous. The unemployment rate was over 30% in my county. Some of my neighbors had livestock that lived in their house. My sister and I were blessed with a natural intelligence that allowed us to claw our way out of poverty into upper middle (and in her case, upper) class American life. I live in the same town I was born and every day I see people who were not so blessed.

Tell me again how I can't get a date and don't know what it's like to be poor.

I think I've succeeded at my goal and am done now. You may have the last word.

I've been throwing around invective? I said your VIEWS were mawkish, ignorant and sexist, and i cracked a joke, that is not hate for christ's sake. And first your sister marries a guy, then attends a Prestigous school just to prove she can, then quits her career to be a housewife because, oh, she cant stand the traffic--and now you want me to believe that you and your sister clawed your way from the depths of poverty because, oh, you're just that smart?! I dont buy it but either way i cant help that youve consistently portrayed yourself as a spoiled, ignorant egotistic asshole and braggart.

[exOBCstudent]

(04-23-2012 02:06 PM)Hollandmichigan Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 01:43 PM)Elijah Craig Wrote:  No, I just enjoy drawing the anger and twisted thinking out of people like you when they attack for no good reason. Engaging you on points would be pretty foolish because you don't have anything but invective. So I just let you throw out a bunch of invective and presumptions about me until you're thoroughly discredited in the eyes of pretty much all the readers.

I grew up in a dysfunctional family on a dirt road in central West Virginia. We had a well. We chopped firewood for heat. I only saw my dad on weekends for years because he had to work out of state to provide for us. I got in fist fights at my elementary school because when I got a new pair of (not brand name) tennis shoes the welfare kids were jealous. The unemployment rate was over 30% in my county. Some of my neighbors had livestock that lived in their house. My sister and I were blessed with a natural intelligence that allowed us to claw our way out of poverty into upper middle (and in her case, upper) class American life. I live in the same town I was born and every day I see people who were not so blessed.

Tell me again how I can't get a date and don't know what it's like to be poor.

I think I've succeeded at my goal and am done now. You may have the last word.

I've been throwing around invective? I said your VIEWS were mawkish, ignorant and sexist, and i cracked a joke, that is not hate for christ's sake. And first your sister marries a guy, then attends a Prestigous school just to prove she can, then quits her career to be a housewife because, oh, she cant stand the traffic--and now you want me to believe that you and your sister clawed your way from the depths of poverty because, oh, you're just that smart?! I dont buy it but either way i cant help that youve consistently portrayed yourself as a spoiled, ignorant egotistic asshole and braggart.

You seem pretty feisty for a new member. Only 15 posts and you're already shedding lead? Wow.

[redbeardiam]

(04-23-2012 02:15 PM)exOBCstudent Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 02:06 PM)Hollandmichigan Wrote:  I've been throwing around invective? I said your VIEWS were mawkish, ignorant and sexist, and i cracked a joke, that is not hate for christ's sake. And first your sister marries a guy, then attends a Prestigous school just to prove she can, then quits her career to be a housewife because, oh, she cant stand the traffic--and now you want me to believe that you and your sister clawed your way from the depths of poverty because, oh, you're just that smart?! I dont buy it but either way i cant help that youve consistently portrayed yourself as a spoiled, ignorant egotistic asshole and braggart.

You seem pretty feisty for a new member. Only 15 posts and you're already shedding lead? Wow.

Srsly. Pretty sure half his posts have been about how much EC sucks. Asshole? Occasionally. Spoiled, ignorant braggart seems like a stretch though. Not sure how anyone consistently proves themselves anything in the course of 2 days.

[Hollandmichigan]

(04-23-2012 02:15 PM)exOBCstudent Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 02:06 PM)Hollandmichigan Wrote:  I've been throwing around invective? I said your VIEWS were mawkish, ignorant and sexist, and i cracked a joke, that is not hate for christ's sake. And first your sister marries a guy, then attends a Prestigous school just to prove she can, then quits her career to be a housewife because, oh, she cant stand the traffic--and now you want me to believe that you and your sister clawed your way from the depths of poverty because, oh, you're just that smart?! I dont buy it but either way i cant help that youve consistently portrayed yourself as a spoiled, ignorant egotistic asshole and braggart.

You seem pretty feisty for a new member. Only 15 posts and you're already shedding lead? Wow.

Don't hate on the newbie ^_^

[WifeofBill]

(04-23-2012 02:22 PM)Hollandmichigan Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 02:15 PM)exOBCstudent Wrote:  You seem pretty feisty for a new member. Only 15 posts and you're already shedding lead? Wow.

Don't hate on the newbie ^_^

Maybe you should take some time to feel out the forums before going on the attack.