A Fundamentalist View of Hell

[TurningIntoDavid]

Those verses were mostly for DonB123 because he wanted verses about hell.

(04-17-2012 04:01 PM)Presbygirl Wrote:  Whoa,TiD, the verses you quoted above are totally taken out of context.

I'm saving that argument for when the more commonly used hell verses start appearing.

(04-17-2012 04:01 PM)Presbygirl Wrote:  Jonah 2:2 is metaphorical.

So he's saying that the belly of the fish is metaphorically similar to a place of eternal torment? That's a bit of a stretch, init?

(04-17-2012 04:01 PM)Presbygirl Wrote:  Ps139:8 just means you can't escape Gods presence

Even if you're in hell, which is (on some interpretations) separation from God.

(04-17-2012 04:01 PM)Presbygirl Wrote:  I Sam 2:6 the statemtent you bringeth down to the Hell and bringeth up means God has the power to do anything.

Agreed. Including rescuing anyone and everyone from hell who's there. 'Cause if it doesn't mean that, what good is it?

(04-17-2012 04:01 PM)Presbygirl Wrote:  Gen 37:35 Huh? that doesn't mean Jacob is going to hell. It means to his own grave, and that he would never stop mourning for him and that he was tortured emotionally.

...So he thinks he's going to his grave, but he refers to it as hell. ...Or at least the KJV does.

(04-17-2012 04:01 PM)Presbygirl Wrote:  Amos 9:2 again, God is everywhere and His love for the Israelites is constant.

God is in Hell. And Israel is trying to escape God's judgment by going there. Hell being a place of God's judgment. Which is really really weird.

(04-17-2012 04:01 PM)Presbygirl Wrote:  Rev20:13:14 death and Hell were delivered and conquered forever. When Death and Hell are delivered into the lake of fire, that means judgement is final. Case closed by God forever. Again metaphorical.

So... if death and hell being tossed into the lake of fire is metaphorical, then why can't the people who don't believe being tossed into the lake of fire be metaphorical?

My opening point is that in many cases, the word that's translated "Hell" doesn't mean "eternal torment" at all, and in these cases, if it does man place of eternal torment, it causes some excruciatingly embarrassing exegetical problems. These are examples. Basically, every time you see the word Hell in the old testament, it's Sheol, a word that never meant "place of eternal torment."

Which means that the idea of Hell isn't in the Old testament. At all.

If you have verses to the contrary (for which the root word isn't "Sheol"), I'd love to see them.