A Fundamentalist View of Hell

[TurningIntoDavid]

(04-17-2012 12:02 PM)Donb123 Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 11:50 AM)TurningIntoDavid Wrote:  Oh for the love of Pete. If I had a nickel for every time someone told me that the Bible was clear on a topic and then didn't quote the Bible after making the statement, I wouldn't be wondering

It's clear to most people who've spent any time in any orthodox church. I just presumed most former fundies would have heard this. In fact I'm pretty sure you could find a few verses so I won't do the work for you unless you really can't.

I could find them, but it's more fun to play the you-show-me-a-verse-and-i-explain-why-it's-actually-proving-what-i-think-and-not-proving-what-you-think-it's-proving game.

(04-17-2012 12:02 PM)Donb123 Wrote:  I'm not Abraham.

orly? lol.

(04-17-2012 12:02 PM)Donb123 Wrote:  IFB's call themselves human, christian, americans, people, men, women, etc... so what places folks may have in common isn't exactly relevant as far as I can tell. That little guilt-by-association won't fly amigo.

Quote:I apologize; I'm new here. Is comparing someone's view to an IFB view the same as a reductio ad hitlerum on here?

No, it's just rather IFB'ish to use guilt-by-association

Well-played, sir.

I feel like I'm being a troll in that statement above, so I'll actually give a few verses.

Jonah 2:2: "Out of the belly of Hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice, earth with her bars was about me forever."
The belly of the big fish = hell.

Ps. 139:8: "If I make my bed in Hell behold thou art there."
God is in hell.

I Sam. 2:6: "The Lord killeth and maketh alive; he bringeth down to the Hell and bringeth up."
So God brings people out of Hell, eh?
(I took the liberty of translating the Hebrew word "Sheol" as "Hell" because every time "Hell" appears in the old testament KJV, it's Sheol)

Gen.37:35: "And all his sons and all his daughters rose up to comfort him; but he refused to be comforted; and he said, For I will go down into Hell to my son mourning. Thus his father wept for him."
So Jacob seems like he's going to hell.

In Amos 9:2, the Israelites are trying to escape God's judgment. This one is frickin' hysterical:
“If they dig into Hell, from there shall my hand take them; if they climb up to heaven, from there I will bring them down.
They're trying to escape God's judgment by going to a place of God's judgment. Metaphorically, of course. This is just ridiculous!
(I took the liberty of translating the Hebrew word "Sheol" as "Hell" because every time "Hell" appears in the old testament KJV, it's Sheol)

My personal favorite:
Rev. 20:13-14: "And death and Hell delivered up the dead which were in them, and death and Hell were cast into the lake of fire."
This one turns out to be especially awkward because Hell is often described as the lake of fire. So now we have hell being cast into... Hell. SayWHAT?