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A Fundamentalist View of Hell
04-16-2012, 10:49 AM
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RE: A Fundamentalist View of Hell
(04-16-2012 10:12 AM)Presbygirl Wrote:  
(04-16-2012 10:02 AM)dramaturge Wrote:  But if you believe in the grace of God, then you would still believe that were he to trust in Christ's atonement, even though he is a pedophile, he'll go to heaven. Whether or not he had molested children would be irrelevant.

Of course, that why I stated that he is unrepentant. But, true repentance is a whole other discussion. And for the record, he already claims to be a believer, and he cheated on her several times before she finally had to divorce him whilst molesting the children.

Point being, not everyone repents, and not everyone will be saved. And yes, there must be judgement or Christ's death is for naught. If everyone would eventually be saved, then Christ didn't need to die. Uncomfortable and unfathomable for some as it may be, accepting that our ways are not Gods ways is essential to us not setting ourselves up to think we know as much or better than God.
Edited to add: I have gifts but mercy is not my best one. I do know that should he truly repent and submit to Christ, He would be forgiven. And that is where I must trust that God, who is the King of Kings would render true justice. Becuase I know that I couldn't ever.


What if Christ's death is indeed the basis for even a universal salvation whether we understand the means or not? Justice would still be served whether we grasp why or how. I think it's just as reasonable to propose that Christ's death accomplished justice for all in a way that God understands and applies as it is to propose that Christ's death only accomplishes applied justice for an individual who accepts it.

p.s. I'm not trying to be belligerent, mostly just using some Socratic method to understand your position and to better understand mine. :-)

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RE: A Fundamentalist View of Hell - Bob M - 04-09-2012, 02:15 PM
RE: A Fundamentalist View of Hell - Bob M - 04-09-2012, 02:42 PM
RE: A Fundamentalist View of Hell - Bob M - 04-09-2012, 02:53 PM
RE: A Fundamentalist View of Hell - Bob M - 04-09-2012, 03:16 PM
RE: A Fundamentalist View of Hell - Bob M - 04-09-2012, 05:36 PM
RE: A Fundamentalist View of Hell - myotch - 04-10-2012, 03:30 AM
RE: A Fundamentalist View of Hell - bean - 04-10-2012, 06:37 AM
RE: A Fundamentalist View of Hell - dramaturge - 04-16-2012 10:49 AM
RE: A Fundamentalist View of Hell - Bob M - 04-16-2012, 02:17 PM
RE: A Fundamentalist View of Hell - JimE - 04-17-2012, 02:56 PM
RE: A Fundamentalist View of Hell - Bob M - 04-17-2012, 04:36 PM

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