9th Circuit Court of Appeals: Still looney after all these years

[myotch]

(02-10-2012 08:15 AM)RobMille Wrote:  This thread is kind of painful to watch. Stamping your feet about how much you hate gays isn't going to stop the inevitable march of civil rights extended to human beings whether you like it or not. Sadly it probably is slowing it down.

I thought this was a civil conversation. No one is stamping feet, no one is hating.

I'm all for civil rights, too. In many cases, I could be absolutely progressive regarding civil rights.

hating gays <> against gay marriage

Elton John, a *married* homosexual, is not much for gay marriage in America (and he and his partner lives here in the ATL).

Fran Lebowitz (an incredibly entertaining and interesting woman - I could listen to her all day) has stated her personal dislike of gay marriage, considering the institution something that takes away liberty.

I don't think these people are "self-hating gays".

I'm not delivering a bigoted tirade. I'm not even producing a religious argument. I'm simply looking at the issue from two perspectives:

1) What is marriage, and what is the role of marriage in a society?
2) What is the historical perspective of marriage that made it the institution it is today?

If I can add a third:
3) For what societal benefit should society extend the protections and benefits of marriage to homosexuals?