The Devil

[Tonx]

All I know is that while Neil Gaiman's interpretation of the devil is biblically accurate, in the sense that he's depicted as being deceptively beautiful, he still looks like Jamie Lee Curtis.

By the way, this is a test to see who else reads The Sandman graphic novels.

[Shoes]

Tonx Wrote:All I know is that while Neil Gaiman's interpretation of the devil is biblically accurate, in the sense that he's depicted as being deceptively beautiful, he still looks like Jamie Lee Curtis.

By the way, this is a test to see who else reads The Sandman graphic novels.

I was impressed ... till you *spoiled* it by naming sandman. c'mon, it's supposed to be a obtuse reference for only those of us in the know! make the 'outsiders' google ™ Neil's name to see who and what you were talkin about.

[Tonx]

(10-26-2011 11:43 AM)Shoes Wrote:  

Tonx Wrote:All I know is that while Neil Gaiman's interpretation of the devil is biblically accurate, in the sense that he's depicted as being deceptively beautiful, he still looks like Jamie Lee Curtis.

By the way, this is a test to see who else reads The Sandman graphic novels.

I was impressed ... till you *spoiled* it by naming sandman. c'mon, it's supposed to be a obtuse reference for only those of us in the know! make the 'outsiders' google ™ Neil's name to see who and what you were talkin about.

I am so sorry Shoes. :'(

[greg]

(10-24-2011 01:12 AM)Don Wrote:  I believe Satan is real. I believe that he was/is a created being and that his plans to overthrow God and rule in heaven were the seed for sin. I believe that he gathered a following and challenged God and God dealt with the rebellion in such a way that all created beings recognized God is God alone.
I Believe that Satan was jealous of the dominion that man had over God's creation and was instrumental in introducing man to the concept of godhood. Knowing that if he could get man to rebel against God then he would by proxy become the ruler over what man had been given dominion over. By tempting man to sin and getting Eve to break God's commandment through guile and enticement he counted on Adam completing the rebellion by willingly participating in the transgression with his mate, bone of his bone, flesh of his flesh.

I believe it is a dangerous thing to deny the existence of Satan. It is just as dangerous as giving Satan too much credit and/or projecting him as the Yin to God's Yang. Satan is powerful and I believe the portrayal in Scripture is accurate. I believe that while he is the most powerful creature in all of creation he is still merely a created being. He is subject to God. Too often I fear that we stand more in awe of Satan and the powers of darkness and we lose sight of who God is.

We tend to make Satan and God out to be Equals on opposing sides... but the truth is, that as powerful as Satan is, he is not even close to equality with God. That is the danger of giving Satan too much credit for individual acts of evil. Satan is not omnipotent, he is not self existing and he is not omnipresent. Yet we do ourselves much harm if we dismiss Satan as being mere myth. If we dismiss Satan as merely a common cultural myth then we do damage to Scripture and in doing so we define truth according to our experience and our limited definitions. Which is, in fact, making ourselves out to be God.

This ^ is good stuff, exactly biblically correct, (I believe)

Greater is he (God) that is in me, than he (Satan) that is in the world.

[FmrMarine]

(12-16-2011 10:37 AM)greg Wrote:  

(10-24-2011 01:12 AM)Don Wrote:  I believe Satan is real. I believe that he was/is a created being and that his plans to overthrow God and rule in heaven were the seed for sin. I believe that he gathered a following and challenged God and God dealt with the rebellion in such a way that all created beings recognized God is God alone.
I Believe that Satan was jealous of the dominion that man had over God's creation and was instrumental in introducing man to the concept of godhood. Knowing that if he could get man to rebel against God then he would by proxy become the ruler over what man had been given dominion over. By tempting man to sin and getting Eve to break God's commandment through guile and enticement he counted on Adam completing the rebellion by willingly participating in the transgression with his mate, bone of his bone, flesh of his flesh.

I believe it is a dangerous thing to deny the existence of Satan. It is just as dangerous as giving Satan too much credit and/or projecting him as the Yin to God's Yang. Satan is powerful and I believe the portrayal in Scripture is accurate. I believe that while he is the most powerful creature in all of creation he is still merely a created being. He is subject to God. Too often I fear that we stand more in awe of Satan and the powers of darkness and we lose sight of who God is.

We tend to make Satan and God out to be Equals on opposing sides... but the truth is, that as powerful as Satan is, he is not even close to equality with God. That is the danger of giving Satan too much credit for individual acts of evil. Satan is not omnipotent, he is not self existing and he is not omnipresent. Yet we do ourselves much harm if we dismiss Satan as being mere myth. If we dismiss Satan as merely a common cultural myth then we do damage to Scripture and in doing so we define truth according to our experience and our limited definitions. Which is, in fact, making ourselves out to be God.

This ^ is good stuff, exactly biblically correct, (I believe)

Greater is he (God) that is in me, than he (Satan) that is in the world.

Satan works at my local Subway. He upsold me on a white chocolate macadamia cookie. It was delicious.

[squiz]

Where do you think the idea of the devil came from? It is not present in the "old testament" in anything like the form in the new. You can see these ideas developing in books like Enoch etc. In fact you can see a lot of traces of NT ideas developing there. Do any of you accept these books as authoritative? It seems Jude did.

[oneflewoutofthecuckcoosnest]

The belief in the devil is the product of second temple Judaism. Doesn't make it wrong or right, but the belief did evolve. CS Lewis believed in the devil but didn't believe that this belief was essential.

[boymom]

Ned Flanders is the devil.