Poll: What does the Bible say about sex?
It's great, and it's only to be enjoyed in the context of a marriage between a man and a woman.
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What the Bible teaches about sex is culturally limited, outdated and oppressive.
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the Christian sexual ethic
10-22-2011, 09:11 AM
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the Christian sexual ethic
Not to make everybody repeat everything they've said in the forums about 'the gays'... but I'm wondering if anyone would be willing to summarize how they define the Christian/biblical sexual ethic, and whether or not they agree with it.

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10-22-2011, 01:21 PM
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RE: the Christian sexual ethic
Back in biblical times, a woman had to marry her rapist.

Yeah, a "biblical" marriage is TOTALLY ideal.

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10-22-2011, 03:25 PM
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RE: the Christian sexual ethic
(10-22-2011 01:21 PM)Tonx Wrote:  Back in biblical times, a woman had to marry her rapist.

Yeah, a "biblical" marriage is TOTALLY ideal.

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To be fair, that's kind of like saying "The Bible Bans Shellfish" It's an Old Testament law given in a culture and time we don't fully understand using language that is less than clear.

Most importantly of all, these commands are not repeated in the New Testament and therefore have very little bearing on our modern Christian sexual ethic.

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10-22-2011, 04:10 PM
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RE: the Christian sexual ethic
All I'm trying to say is that a biblical marriage isn't as ideal as some Christians make it out to be. They think that a biblical marriage means a man and a woman living happily ever after, 'til death do they part. There's a darker side to it that not many people are familiar with. I'm not saying that all Christians agree with this kind of thing today, but it can certainly be misinterpreted that way by someone who is familiar with this period in history.

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10-22-2011, 04:17 PM
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Quote:All I'm trying to say is that a biblical marriage isn't as ideal as some Christians make it out to be. They think that a biblical marriage means a man and a woman living happily ever after, 'til death do they part.

Well that's normative but we know that it obviously doesn't always work out that way.

Jesus said that Moses gave the people the ability to divorce because of the "hardness of their hearts" so it has never really worked out the way that it was intended. Just like most other things. The world is severely broken.

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10-22-2011, 04:36 PM
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(10-22-2011 01:21 PM)Tonx Wrote:  Back in biblical times, a woman had to marry her rapist.

Yeah, a "biblical" marriage is TOTALLY ideal.

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From a modern western context, that law sounds insane. If we were in an ancient near eastern context, we might think about that law a little differently. An unmarried rape victim had no recourse in most of the ancient world. She was unmarriageable if anyone knew about it, and because of the nature of those cultures it was essentially impossible for a woman to support herself. That law requiring marriage ensured that she would be provided for instead of becoming an outcast. Ideal? In no way. But it was better than the most common alternative.

Second, what Darrell said and you agreed with. Those are national laws for Israel we're talking about... I don't know any Christian who thinks they were intended to be for all people at all times.

On the other hand, the New Testament does deal with sexuality. Jesus was perhaps the strongest when he talked about lust being adultery.

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10-22-2011, 04:58 PM (This post was last modified: 10-22-2011 04:59 PM by redbeardiam.)
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(10-22-2011 04:17 PM)Darrell Wrote:  Well that's normative but we know that it obviously doesn't always work out that way.

Jesus said that Moses gave the people the ability to divorce because of the "hardness of their hearts" so it has never really worked out the way that it was intended. Just like most other things. The world is severely broken.

Amen to that. I don't know anyone who has a perfect marriage. The pressure to look perfect is one of the most dangerous characteristics of fundamentalism and leads to a lot of destructive behavior, especially in the context of relationships.

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10-22-2011, 05:13 PM
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I couldn't pick one, as I kinda-sorta agree with all three.

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10-23-2011, 11:14 AM (This post was last modified: 10-23-2011 11:14 AM by Elijah Craig.)
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(10-22-2011 04:10 PM)Tonx Wrote:  All I'm trying to say is that a biblical marriage isn't as ideal as some Christians make it out to be.


I think the post was more about sexual ethics than grounds for divorce/remarriage.

And the Old Testament actually says that a man who rapes a woman is to be put to death. Granted, there is a caveat but since we're oversimplifying...
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