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Is God imaginary? One example
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06-07-2011, 08:32 PM
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06-07-2011, 10:48 PM
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RE: Is God imaginary? One example
(06-07-2011 08:32 PM)pastafari Wrote:(06-06-2011 07:45 AM)Mommy2Kids Wrote: Why is this jackwagon here? You deflected quite well. Why are you here? If you talk like a jackwagon, and you act like a jackwagon, it's quite likely you are a JACKWAGON. The Jesus I know called it like it was. He wasn't worried about hurting people's feelings if they were just hanging around to stir up trouble. http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lang/nt_list.html |
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06-07-2011, 11:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-07-2011 11:18 PM by Don.)
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RE: Is God imaginary? One example
Quote:Well first you would have to define these transcendent beings and what they are capable of. But if God appeared in the sky in front of millions, spoke in a loud booming voice that caused seismographs worldwide to go crazy, and decided to move a large mountain like he said he could, then I would end up believing. No, you may at that point say, "AH, God does exist." But that is not what "believing In God," means. You say you require proof of God's existence before you will believe. All the proof you need in order to believe is right before you and yet you refuse to see. The fact is you cannot see until God opens the eyes of your understanding and does a work of grace in your heart, your soul, your very being. (and yes I am praying to that end for you.) "There is no worse heresy than the fact that the office sanctifies the holder of it.” -from Lord Acton's Axiom “Yippee ki-yay, Mother Fundamentalist” |
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06-08-2011, 12:36 AM
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RE: Is God imaginary? One example
Pasta,
I cannot answer for mommy2kids. However I do find it insulting that you come on here and imply that anyone who belives in something beyond scientifically testable things is not rational or fully rational and set themselves and those that belive the way they do as the definition and epitomy of being a rational person. That was my main beef with you. There is one other regular on here who is an atheist on here, but he does not feel the need to do what you are doing. |
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06-08-2011, 07:39 AM
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RE: Is God imaginary? One example
(06-06-2011 10:52 AM)Shoes Wrote: You do not know within the next 100 – 150 years, a scientific study or a piece of equipment will be invented/discovered that will prove our statements making them verifiable. (06-07-2011 08:09 PM)pastafari Wrote: You just said that within 100-150 years someone will discover god with some piece of equipment, then in the same paragraph you said that day will never come. Which is it? Read what I wrote. I said that there is a possibility that science is lagging behind. There is a possibility that something will be invented that could prove God’s existence. Then I state my opinion: that while this is a possibility, I do not think it will happen. I was appealing to your science-is-king mentality, coupled with the fact that we know science is constantly shifting/changing. And to address you anecdote problem. All science is collections of anecdotes. It is a collection of anecdotes that have been gathered, grouped into data points used to prove or disproved a hypothesis. Also, anecdotes cease to be anecdotes when there are thousands, no millions, no billions of them that claim the same experience. Shoes have come a long way from their humble beginnings as simple leather moccasins. Today footwear is built to withstand any extreme environment where a foot can tread -- from the heart of a burning building to the track of an Olympic stadium ~Scorps |
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06-08-2011, 12:04 PM
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RE: Is God imaginary? One example
(06-07-2011 08:32 PM)pastafari Wrote:(06-06-2011 07:45 AM)Mommy2Kids Wrote: Why is this jackwagon here? Ah....would you prefer: “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?" "You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence." "You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean." "You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are." “If dandelions were hard to grow, they would be most welcome on any lawn.” -Andrew V. Mason |
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06-08-2011, 12:13 PM
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RE: Is God imaginary? One example
(06-07-2011 08:09 PM)pastafari Wrote: You do understand that many people say they KNOW they experienced anal probing from Aliens aboard their spaceship? Once you understand this, you will know why anecdotes are not evidence. Seriously?!? This [they experienced anal probing from Aliens aboard their spaceship] follows that [you will know why anecdotes are not evidence] You’re an f-ing idiot Shoes have come a long way from their humble beginnings as simple leather moccasins. Today footwear is built to withstand any extreme environment where a foot can tread -- from the heart of a burning building to the track of an Olympic stadium ~Scorps |
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06-08-2011, 07:32 PM
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RE: Is God imaginary? One example
(06-08-2011 12:13 PM)Shoes Wrote: And to address you anecdote problem. All science is collections of anecdotes. It is a collection of anecdotes that have been gathered, grouped into data points used to prove or disproved a hypothesis. Also, anecdotes cease to be anecdotes when there are thousands, no millions, no billions of them that claim the same experience. Quote:You’re an f-ing idiot Oh boy. Are you incapable of being civil? Theres a bit of a double standard here with regards to respect. I have not called anyone names and have been banned. Many others here have called me names and they get upvoted. Did you even watch the anecdotes video? Here is the definition of anecdote I was using to refer to your statement: Evidence, which may itself be true and verifiable, used to deduce a conclusion which does not follow from it, usually by generalizing from an insufficient amount of evidence. Basically, you said life got better after you prayed. This doesn't necessarily mean it was God doing it. My life has gotten better after I took a dump, doesn't mean it was my bowels that did it. Personal anecdotes alone are not a viable argument against data, facts, theory, empirical observation, and objective measurement. Lots of anecdotes do not support a case any more than a few anecdotes do. This is because all anecdotes are provided via a process which is itself fallible and prone to many sources of error. Anecdotal evidence has its place in scientific theory - but it is no contender for a source of information which can provide a mechanistic understanding the mental universe. Contrary to the popular saying, data is not the plural of anecdote. Look at it this way, a few thousand years ago you would be able to gather thousands of anecdotes of people saying that in their personal experience the world is flat. In fact you would have near unanimous agreement. This has zero bearing on whether or not it is true. In specific terms you are using the appeal to the masses logical fallacy. |
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06-08-2011, 07:33 PM
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RE: Is God imaginary? One example
(06-07-2011 10:48 PM)Mommy2Kids Wrote: If you talk like a jackwagon, and you act like a jackwagon, it's quite likely you are a JACKWAGON. The Jesus I know called it like it was. He wasn't worried about hurting people's feelings if they were just hanging around to stir up trouble.So you are saying that Jesus was a jerk to people who disagreed with him? Cool. |
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06-08-2011, 08:05 PM
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