Hidalgo Grain Company Taken Down

[DaisyDeadhead]

(06-06-2012 10:39 AM)sparkysugarsdad Wrote:  Oh. my. word. All this over a tempest in a teapot. In a few days, Mr. Hidalgo Grain will be posting again. I will be ignoring again. Mr. Peterman will start a new job. Mrs. Dr. Lewis will continue her research. Jeffrey Hoffmann will continue doing his thing. Daisy will be blogging and talking. Life goes on.

Absolutely right. I give Hidalgo until the end of the week to get over his tantrum and start up again.

This has been a very good attention-getting stunt to increase his blog hits though. I got 500 in just one day, so I am sure his will go through the proverbial roof, just as he planned it.

I got played and so did you.

Call me cynical.

[paul]

(06-05-2012 05:00 PM)greg Wrote:  It bears reapeating. The folks that yell the loudest about tolerance are usually the most intolerant folks around!!

Thanks, greg. It is always good to get a lesson from the experts, and we all know you are an expert in intolerance.

For the record, however, I am not intolerant of Hidalgo or his blog, other than in my own personal reading time. I don't go there; I won't grant him the privilege of a "count" for my "click". He is an internet troll and I have learned the lesson that you don't feed the trolls. (Although whether I have learned is debatable since I'm replying to you.)

I was replying to the fact that Hidalgo's blog was given credence as someone who "calls them like he sees them". I hold a strongly different opinion. I'd suggest you do some research on what "intolerant" means. Mr. Hidalgo can blog to his happy content and I don't give two ounces of concern. However, I do have an opinion of the quality of his work and my suspicions of his purposes. That's not intolerant; that's just opinion.

Intolerance is... Awww hell, go do your own research. You can start with the dictionary and then move on to any number of your previous posts.

[BASSENCO]

(06-06-2012 10:39 AM)sparkysugarsdad Wrote:  I got played and so did you.

Call me cynical.

Yeah, poor Daisy. She got tricked into threatening violence. Remember, your choices are never your fault.

If others can get you to default to making imbecilic and violent threats, then it's time to stop being so stupid and violent.

I didn't like what Greg was doing, and I said so on his blog. But the threats of violence were just, well, stupid and violent. If people can "play" you that easily, then stop being so easily played.

[DaisyDeadhead]

(06-06-2012 12:27 PM)BASSENCO Wrote:  If others can get you to default to making imbecilic and violent threats, then it's time to stop being so stupid and violent.

Sorry, I enjoy being stupid and violent. It annoys the goody-goodies to no end.

If there is anything else I can do to specifically to piss you off, let me know. I will try to oblige. I can see you enjoy the hell out of it, and we aims to please.

Once a yippie, always a yippie.

[BASSENCO]

(06-06-2012 12:57 PM)DaisyDeadhead Wrote:  

(06-06-2012 12:27 PM)BASSENCO Wrote:  If others can get you to default to making imbecilic and violent threats, then it's time to stop being so stupid and violent.

Sorry, I enjoy being stupid and violent.

I can tell. You forgot boring and tedious as well.

[DaisyDeadhead]

(06-06-2012 12:58 PM)BASSENCO Wrote:  

(06-06-2012 12:57 PM)DaisyDeadhead Wrote:  Sorry, I enjoy being stupid and violent.

I can tell. You forgot boring and tedious as well.

If that pleases you, hon. Its your moral indignation, not mine.

[captain_solo]

(06-06-2012 08:57 AM)DaisyDeadhead Wrote:  

(06-05-2012 08:43 PM)lucrezaborgia Wrote:  I never said you should apologize. I said that your non-apology is going to bite you in the ass. The internet is FOREVER. You and Hidalgo can redact all you want and this info will still be out there. Do you even realize what you have done to yourself? Your being snippy with everyone for trying to tell you this isn't helping either. FFS, it's like watching a temper tantrum.

There are countless blow-ups on my blog, some much worse. (If you want some links, I can send em.)

I wish you were right, but the internet has a memory of about 48 hrs. Nobody remembers anything. It all passes like water under a bridge. (Not in THIS neck of the woods, I can see, but in most neighborhoods of the net.)

I see that YOU will hold a grudge forever, regardless of what I do (are you Irish?), but most people simply forget about other people's feuds and can only remember their own.

No, the internet is not forever. I have "do follow" on my blog, and I can see what is retained and what is not. If something is deleted within approx 72 hrs on a low-traffic blog (i.e. not something like HuffPo, or even Darrell's blog), it is not searchable. Down the memory hole. (They seem to retain content longer on the "big blogs"--not sure of the reason.)

Darrell can correct me if I'm wrong... he has a high traffic blog and his experience will be different than mine. His stuff might be retained for a search much quicker than mine would be. Google indexing gives some pages a much higher priority in searches than others, and probably in content-retention also. Right now, if you search for Greg's address, you get Spokeo and the White pages, where its easily available. You don't get my blog, and you won't either.

Now that everyone here has helpfully taken screen shots of the offense, it
WILL be forever HERE, of course. (I assume the purpose of this is to punish and shame me... I HAVE been paying attention to fundie psychology while I've been here!) Otherwise, you might tell people here to delete the posts if you are truly worried about their existence.

C-Fresh, Fair use does not apply to a Creative Commons license, which is what I have on my blog. If I am a "public figure" that is different, but copyrighted art work by someone else, for instance (one of the things he stole) is not.

use of copyrighted works in parody are always considered fair use as long as they are used to comment on the author's works.

don't waste your money on a lawsuit. You would lose. No matter what license you claim.

SFL would be in trouble if you were right on this one.

[greg]

I am still having a difficult time getting my head around how so many of you view this thing.

Maybe it's because I spent 22 years on the mean streets of my city battling vicious bullies and have seen the aftermath of their destructive ways. Many do threaten and don't follow through, but the victim can never be completely sure. I was the one that had to respond when they did carry through. Have any of you ever tried to explain to a 4 yr old boy and his older sister why their daddy killed their puppy? (to keep their mother in line) Have any of you ever walked into the basement and found a 12 yr old swinging by their neck, because they couldn't face one more day dealing with bullies at their school. This last example is especially poignant and occurred right up the street from my house, a young boy 14, picked on and abused, finally had enough, and stuck a .22 pistol in his mouth and pulled the trigger, I was the first officer on scene, I found a grief stricken father, blood all over his clothes and face from trying to resurrect his dead son. I knew this boy, not only because he was a neighborhood kid, but I knew he was having problems and had tried to act as an older brother to him.

Suffice it to say I hate bullies. But let's examine what some of our SFL folks think about it. These all came after Wandering traveller said "threats like this are still inappropriate." (I think for the 2nd time)

DD doesn't owe us any apology, also hopes DD is able to get this straightened out (How about telling her to quit terrorizing people, there were kids in this family) also same writer "I doubt he felt threatened" ahh, ok, well then that makes it alright then.

One writer apparently thinks that just because they were able to easily find said victim's address on the internet, that makes DD's disseminating that information to the world via her blog just fine!

One open-minded writer says "I dislike thuggery no matter who does it" well that sounds good, but then goes on to list DD, Hidalgo and others, but funny thing is, there was only one of these persons threatening folks with physical violence, and handing out personal information, like addressses, workplaces, children etc.

Some try to make it all funny. One enlightened writer to DD. "If Hidalgo had said he was sending bikers to your house I would say that was wrong too" (of course that's not what happened, is it?) "Although I think you would have laughed at him." (So because she laughs at terroristic threats to her and her family, everyone should think terrorist threats are funny!)

Now we get to the real fundy part of the story:

"The horse is dead, let it rest in peace."

"Just a tempest in a teapot, everything will be back to normal shortly"

Just like Chuck Phelps sending Tina Anderson several states away to have her baby. A baby that was the result of a church
deacon raping her.

I am not for one minute sorry for hammering this vicious terrorist. Call me anything you will. A man and his family were victimized, and threatened in a very public way. I hope he and his family can find a safe place, both physically and emotionally, this may leave scars on the children for a lifetime.

I hate bullies!

[Persnickety Polecat]

Yeah ... I also said the threats were inappropriate no matter which way you look at it. But you conveniently -- oh, so conveniently -- overlooked that.

And you know what, you may have seen the aftermath of violence. Some of us lived it. I have ptsd thanks to surviving violence. So go sell your ignorance elsewhere.

[greg]

One grain of sand doesn't make much of a difference on a beach!