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[RobMille]

I don't know that I would call internet or affordable healthcare a human right, but one of the quickest ways to allow the country to slide into a place with piss poor internet connectivity, and unaffordable health care.

[Papa Bear]

(05-17-2012 06:33 PM)RobMille Wrote:  I don't know that I would call internet or affordable healthcare a human right, but one of the quickest ways to allow the country to slide into a place with piss poor internet connectivity, and unaffordable health care.

This is not a complete sentence. What is "one of the quickest ways to allow the country to slide into a place with piss poor internet connectivity, and unaffordable health care?"

[captain_solo]

(05-17-2012 07:55 PM)Papa Bear Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 06:33 PM)RobMille Wrote:  I don't know that I would call internet or affordable healthcare a human right, but one of the quickest ways to allow the country to slide into a place with piss poor internet connectivity, and unaffordable health care.

This is not a complete sentence. What is "one of the quickest ways to allow the country to slide into a place with piss poor internet connectivity, and unaffordable health care?"

ok, so another quick way to allow the country to slide into a place with poor education

[Papa Bear]

I still don't understand if Rob meant calling health care and internet human rights leads to poor internet access and expensive health care, or NOT calling health care and internet human rights leads to poor internet access and expensive health care. No, it's not obvious, because I've heard different people make both claims. The irony is, they're both so unable to imagine the other viewpoint that they think their ideas are obvious to everyone.

[bean]

(05-17-2012 06:30 PM)RobMille Wrote:  Internet is definitely not a human right, but we're still spending billions rolling out fiber across the country to bring true broadband to rural communities (it's those big orange bails you've seen along various interstates & highways this spring).

Boy I sure hope we get it cause we're on "DSL" (whoo-hoo) and whenever I try be on netflix kid comes into the room going "WHo's streaming a movie, I'm trying to play xbox!" hahaha. I tell him to shut the game off and do his homework!

[bean]

(05-17-2012 07:58 AM)Darrell Wrote:  

Quote:I think a basic list of starters would be a decent education and health care that is affordable.

Is it my "right" to force somebody else to pay for things I need?

When it's something that we can't do as individuals but can as a society..when said things are so essential to fulfilling a person's human potential...when the education or health care a person gets are a mere accident of where someone happens to be born...yeah. We do things all the time for the common good.

[Darrell]

(05-24-2012 06:18 AM)bean Wrote:  when the education or health care a person gets are a mere accident of where someone happens to be born

But isn't that true of the entire world?

Is it the human right of kids the developing world to make the working-class people in the United States pay for their healthcare?

After all, even a minimum wage employee here enjoys much more "luxury" than people where I grew up.

Is there any line to be drawn as to who owes what to whom?