NKJV triquetra = 666?

[barttheanorak]

I only discovered this Scottish KJO site today, ironically while looking for something completely unconnected to theology.

The guy has a bigger stockade against my anti-KJO one-liners than any I've seen before. One article they've used has damn nigh got me convinced that the triquetra symbol on the NKJV spine is an interlocked 666. Apparently it's a new age symbol and new agers admit they use it for 666.

"Constance Cumbey, author of The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow and a notable authority on the New Age Movement, said, "On the cover of the Aquarian Conspiracy is a Mobius, it is really used by them as triple six (666). The emblem on the cover of the New King James Bible is said to be an ancient symbol of the Trinity. The old symbol had gnostic origins. It was more gnostic than Christian. I was rather alarmed when I noticed the emblem..." (The New Age Movement, Southwest Radio Church, 1982 p.11) "

http://www.kjv1611.org.uk/NKJV%20Counterfeit.htm

Still don't buy into the idea that they've changed Lucifer to Jesus in the "How thou art fallen" passage though.

[Presbygirl]

Oh no, J+U+S+T+I+N =6 B+I+E+B+E+R=6

Today is the 17th of May. 7-1=6
So, if you connect my sixes together, it makes a triangled trifecta, of 666 for Justin Bieber.

[captain_solo]

(05-17-2012 01:04 PM)Presbygirl Wrote:  Oh no, J+U+S+T+I+N =6 B+I+E+B+E+R=6

Today is the 17th of May. 7-1=6
So, if you connect my sixes together if makes a triangled trifecta, of 666 for Justin Bieber.

Shoes will be proud

[dramaturge]

New Age followers also use the rainbow as a symbol. Does that mean it's a symbol of evil? The triquetra has existed in many forms throughout Celtic art and written work. It was adopted to symbolize the trinity, taking a known element--the mobius of three--and using to symbolize a mysterious concept--three personalities making one tri-fold person. If we analyzed every symbol around us, we'd be certain to find random connections to new age mysticism as the philosophy is both incredibly diverse and very good at co-opting a lot of symbols. After having my brain cells melted trying to slog my way through Two Babylons and taking to time to research Babylon, Mystery Religion on my own, I find these "but that symbol has occult/evil/new age connection" arguments are flimsy, lacking in objective connection, and spend far too much time nitpicking in an effort to prop-up indefensible personal opinion. That is, yes, also an opinion. :-P

Interesting note, when Googling to remind myself of the title of Two Babylons, I found this article. My respect for Woodrow has been definitely been raised.

[barttheanorak]

(05-17-2012 03:14 PM)dramaturge Wrote:  New Age followers also use the rainbow as a symbol. Does that mean it's a symbol of evil? The triquetra has existed in many forms throughout Celtic art and written work. It was adopted to symbolize the trinity, taking a known element--the mobius of three--and using to symbolize a mysterious concept--three personalities making one tri-fold person. If we analyzed every symbol around us, we'd be certain to find random connections to new age mysticism as the philosophy is both incredibly diverse and very good at co-opting a lot of symbols. After having my brain cells melted trying to slog my way through Two Babylons and taking to time to research Babylon, Mystery Religion on my own, I find these "but that symbol has occult/evil/new age connection" arguments are flimsy, lacking in objective connection, and spend far too much time nitpicking in an effort to prop-up indefensible personal opinion. That is, yes, also an opinion. :-P

Interesting note, when Googling to remind myself of the title of Two Babylons, I found this article. My respect for Woodrow has been definitely been raised.

So is the lady talking through her hat when she says "On the cover of the Aquarian Conspiracy is a Mobius, it is really used by them as triple six (666)."?

Note she says "It is used by them as..." not "If you look closely you will see this and no further proof needed".

[dramaturge]

I don't think it makes any difference how it's used by them. Why would it matter how a New Age follower uses the triquetra when it has been used as a symbol for the trinity for hundreds of years? The dove is used on a tarot card and as a peace symbol. Should we stop using it as a symbol of the Holy Spirit and stop putting it on the covers of Bibles, too? How far are we going to take the symbolic interpretations of fringe groups? Sure, New Agers use the triquetra as a symbol, and possibly as a symbol of 666. So what? We could drive ourselves into superstitious frenzy if we saw nefarious schemes all the images or symbols around us. If one's argument against a Bible translation is that some of it's editions have a triquetra on the cover, and some New Agers have allegedly used this as a representation of 666, then one's argument is incredibly weak.

Also, the triquetra with the circle came way before Aliester Crowley, contrary to what that site suggests. That simply refuted fact would discredit any other tenuous connection made there. Also, every connection made there is tenuous.


Slightly tangental, I have yet to be shown the the numerals 666 have any literal meaning to make us fear anyway. The entire point of the verse is that although the Antichrist presents himself as divine, he is merely a man.

[Presbygirl]

This is why I posted what I did.

Also, I've been told that in many countries the whole idea of the beast and 666 is hardly even noticed. Only first world countries go crazy because the "mark" speaks directly to materialism! Oh no! what if we couldn't buy stuff without the mark?????? Other countries are saying "yeah so?" I don't buy much anyway.

Also, 6 is one short of the number for perfection and completion which is 7. I think that's about it, really.

Satan is a number short! Jesus isn't.

Forgot to add: 3 is the number for holy. And that's not weird numerology. Just think of when Holy is used to describe the LORD. It is repeated 3 times. As the anti-Christ is looking to deceive, and the best deceptions are close to the truth, this is perhaps why the number 6 is chosen and repeated 3 times. It is close but no cigar!