The Most Racist Thing I've Seen Today

[MKxcomm]

This guy is in a well-traveled singing group. I love them all, but this is the most blatantly racist thing I've seen in a while. And of course a bunch of white, Independent Baptists were liking it. My blood is boiling!
At first I thought it was some kind of joke...But I don't see a joke in there.


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[amyrose5]

I am seriously, I kid you not, surfing SFL for a moment as a break from writing a paper on Indian activism in the 1970s based on a book that clearly analyzes the damage done to generations of tribes and people by taking away their land and culture.

So I am right there with you on your response to this! Disgusting.

I mentioned this paper in passing to someone on Thursday who responded by telling me a racist joke about Indians that implied that they are all stupid criminal alcoholics who deserved to have their land taken and culture destroyed. The he had the nerve to be offended because I did not laugh.

[MKxcomm]

(02-25-2012 09:40 PM)amyrose5 Wrote:  I am seriously, I kid you not, surfing SFL for a moment as a break from writing a paper on Indian activism in the 1970s based on a book that clearly analyzes the damage done to generations of tribes and people by taking away their land and culture.

So I am right there with you on your response to this! Disgusting.

I mentioned this paper in passing to someone on Thursday who responded by telling me a racist joke about Indians that implied that they are all stupid criminal alcoholics who deserved to have their land taken and culture destroyed. The he had the nerve to be offended because I did not laugh.

I knew it would mean nothing if I called him a racist. I knew I'd get further by attacking his stance as a conservative.

[Lady Julian]

(02-25-2012 09:44 PM)MKxcomm Wrote:  I knew it would mean nothing if I called him a racist. I knew I'd get further by attacking his stance as a conservative.

Nice job planning your response. Hopefully it will cause him to think, even just a little bit.

[MKxcomm]

This is his response:

"Justified in taking the land from the Indians and making this nation great. Had we not took the land we wouldn't have the US as it is today from coast to coast. It's always justified to take land from dictators (chiefs) would it be justified to take land from an American today? Of course not, but we are not in a nation with hostile Indians running around anymore. I was just quoting the great John Wayne."

I really thought that this conversation was over a long time ago. Do we really have to reteach my generation that what we did to the Indians was a crime?

[amyrose5]

(02-25-2012 09:59 PM)MKxcomm Wrote:  This is his response:

"Justified in taking the land from the Indians and making this nation great. Had we not took the land we wouldn't have the US as it is today from coast to coast. It's always justified to take land from dictators (chiefs) would it be justified to take land from an American today? Of course not, but we are not in a nation with hostile Indians running around anymore. I was just quoting the great John Wayne."

I really thought that this conversation was over a long time ago. Do we really have to reteach my generation that what we did to the Indians was a crime?

Wow.

I have not actually encountered anyone who justifies what we did in the 18th and 19th centuries. What I have encountered way too much of are people who refuse to even consider that the situations on reservations today are the legacy of what we did then.

[MKxcomm]

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Wow.

I have not actually encountered anyone who justifies what we did in the 18th and 19th centuries. What I have encountered way too much of are people who refuse to even consider that the situations on reservations today are the legacy of what we did then.
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Man, this is what makes me know that people need to go an accredited college if at all possible. It's hard to be as racist when you start taking classes that make you think.

[amyrose5]

(02-25-2012 10:57 PM)MKxcomm Wrote:  Man, this is what makes me know that people need to go an accredited college if at all possible. It's hard to be as racist when you start taking classes that make you think.

There are reservations very near to us. Less than 50 miles from here. And this is a very conservative area, so the attitude is that the Indians there need to be responsible and pull themselves up by their own boot straps and get on with it.

The notion that we decimated their people and culture, tore them away from their homeland and spiritual foundations, and left them with nothing resembling boot straps, thus they cannot pull them up....well that just does not compute.

I'll actually be going to the reservation soon to do some research about education for a grad school paper. I'm excited about it as I hope to visit language and culture classes.

[Sharon]

(02-25-2012 09:59 PM)MKxcomm Wrote:  This is his response:

"Justified in taking the land from the Indians and making this nation great. Had we not took the land we wouldn't have the US as it is today from coast to coast. It's always justified to take land from dictators (chiefs) would it be justified to take land from an American today? Of course not, but we are not in a nation with hostile Indians running around anymore. I was just quoting the great John Wayne."

I really thought that this conversation was over a long time ago. Do we really have to reteach my generation that what we did to the Indians was a crime?

the great Hollywood actor, John Wayne? Yeah. Ask him who else he listens to in the entertainment industry.

I have heard preachers say God took this land away from the Indians and gave it to the white people because of their idolatry.

[Lady Julian]

(02-25-2012 10:57 PM)MKxcomm Wrote:  Man, this is what makes me know that people need to go an accredited college if at all possible. It's hard to be as racist when you start taking classes that make you think.

Agreed! This is important. I did not hear anything about racial and gender privilege at my Fundy U, and I did not begin to accept that I had white privilege until I attended a state university.

My first semester there was sort of difficult: I started off ranting against the books they made us teach and the videos they made us watch, so I did a poor job teaching that stuff to the students (I was a T.A.) It was another semester or so before I realized what I'd been missing and started to believe that such things as privilege existed.

(Okay, rabbit trail over. The importance of an accredited university is one of my many berserk buttons).