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RE: Jack Schaap... Why so hated? - Persnickety Polecat - 05-21-2012 12:10 PM
(05-21-2012 11:49 AM)JessB Wrote: "Hated" isn't the right word. Those who speak against him do so because he teaches false doctrine.
I laid the table for dinner last night. I laid my kids' schoolwork out for them this morning. I laid the clean laundry on everyone's beds so that they could put it away. I stuck stickers on everyone's rewards charts. I shudder to think what Schaap would make of my activities.
The man's sick.
RE: Jack Schaap... Why so hated? - JimE - 05-21-2012 01:40 PM
(05-21-2012 12:05 PM)techmedic Wrote: Heh... I prolly am borderline on that list... Major tattoos and still getting them.
Metal and tattos puts you back next to heathen and reprobate. You will never fit in until you publicly renounce and remove/hide the tatoos and publicly renounce metal/country/rocknroll/pop. And after you do this, there will be something else that will disqualify you. In fundyland, being accepted is a moving target, expect to miss.
RE: Jack Schaap... Why so hated? - exOBCstudent - 05-21-2012 02:04 PM
(05-21-2012 01:40 PM)JimE Wrote:My dad had to get rid of his entire pristine record album collection (Classic rock) and eventually get his tattoos lazer removed while we were in Fundyland. You can expect to hear from them on those obviously "worldly" outer features. I do remember you mentioning Schaap's reaction to those a while back.(05-21-2012 12:05 PM)techmedic Wrote: Heh... I prolly am borderline on that list... Major tattoos and still getting them.
RE: Jack Schaap... Why so hated? - Sharon - 05-21-2012 03:45 PM
(05-21-2012 11:48 AM)techmedic Wrote:
I found it a lot strange--not just "a little." And I think it speaks to some sort of psychological defect on his part that he went there.
Schaap has never renounced his weird creepy views on sex & communion being basically the same, so I assume he still has those weird creepy views. Letting the book be out of print isn't the same as renouncing the opinion in it.
RE: Jack Schaap... Why so hated? - Kim G - 05-21-2012 03:49 PM
He also says that it will be a cold day in hell before he ever listens to theology from a woman, and he talks about slapping grandma. He's elitist, sexist, violent, and crass in his sermons.
RE: Jack Schaap... Why so hated? - EmilyKing - 05-21-2012 04:02 PM
Everyone there will treat you amazing since you're new. They introduce the wilder beliefs after they've gotten you emotionally attached.
The sheer size of FBCH provides a lot if diversity, even within some of the 'inner circle'. There are some very sincere people there, and some fakes. You can go there for years without seeing the nastier side of things, depending on how involved you are and who you're hanging around.
RE: Jack Schaap... Why so hated? - myotch - 05-21-2012 05:27 PM
How Schaap rubs me the wrong way:
He turns the commission to preach "boldly" into preach "arrogantly".
I don't hate him, and if I were IFB, I probably would like him more. But, I prefer not to surround myself with irritatingly arrogant people, much less allow them to influence me.
RE: Jack Schaap... Why so hated? - Bob M - 05-21-2012 07:04 PM
(05-21-2012 11:27 AM)techmedic Wrote: Forgive me, but I have been coming here for less then a year, and have been attending a church for about the same amount of time. My question is why is Jack Schaap so hated? A simple google search will return nothing but negative things.
Because he is obnoxious. I heard him in chapel at HAC and other times and he is full of himself. No disrespect to you, just my opinion of him.
RE: Jack Schaap... Why so hated? - Qrayze - 05-21-2012 08:39 PM
Every time I hear him speak (teach, preach, whatever), I hear manipulative lies cleverly woven in with biblical truth. Every. single. time.
What I dislike even more is that no one will stand up to his lies at that church. <---major reason why I left
RE: Jack Schaap... Why so hated? - techmedic - 05-21-2012 09:03 PM
I've been watching for some of that, there have been a few WTF moments but nothing I was not able to brush off. Now I must admit he does bring up sex quite often which I did find strange the first time I heard him bring it up, I was raised Catholic and they never brought up sex in church (maybe talking about adulterers but nothing graphic). There were a few times I was kinda uncomfortable (and I'm pretty tough) about what he was saying.
Maybe I'm asking the wrong questions, or maybe I'm turning a blind eye....or maybe (hopefully this is NOT it) I'm starting to get some of the brainwashing. I just really don't know what to watch for, and would like some guidance I suppose, this is all very new to me.