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RE: Michelle Bachmann/Illegal Aliens - bean - 12-17-2011 05:49 PM
They can't go to a regular doctor because they can't afford any health insurance, probably.
RE: Michelle Bachmann/Illegal Aliens - bean - 12-17-2011 06:02 PM
Hey, great show on Current right now. "This illegal American Life."
Love Current. I learn so much more than when Fox News was on my tv 24/7
RE: Michelle Bachmann/Illegal Aliens - Tonx - 12-17-2011 07:33 PM
(12-17-2011 01:57 PM)bean Wrote: So Tonx, here's my question for you. I get so many people who almost flip out whenever single payer health care is mentioned. Would you trade your system for ours?
Ha, NO, but maybe for France's...I hear it's pretty good. I still think it's pretty stupid that ambulance rides cost so much, even here in Canada. But in comparison to what YOU have to go through, I shouldn't even be complaining
And by the way, we pretty ripped off that we're being charged an extra $5 or something to cross the border. What did we dooo?
RE: Michelle Bachmann/Illegal Aliens - bean - 12-17-2011 07:36 PM
Five bucks to cross the border? That sucks. I have never heard of that! When did that start?
RE: Michelle Bachmann/Illegal Aliens - Donb123 - 12-17-2011 10:57 PM
(12-17-2011 06:02 PM)bean Wrote: Love Current. I learn so much more than when Fox News was on my tv 24/7
Fox' newscast is actually pretty moderate and has been graded as such using verifiable criteria. Their various other shows- yeah well that's different. They're very neo-con. But then again it's just like having MSNBC on the liberal end of the spectrum. I used to love to watch that raging d-bag Olberman froth at the mouth when talking about Bush.. cause he was usually right Fox is just one of several and then there's plenty of stuff on the Internet. Everyone has an agenda so I don't know why anybody would want to get all their information from just one biased outlet, particularly when it is their own bias.
RE: Michelle Bachmann/Illegal Aliens - bean - 12-18-2011 08:31 AM
I suppose we gravitate toward the information sources that confirm our own opinions. I do like balance. I can tolerate Fox News in reality. I do definitely pick up a conservative angle when watching.
I like current because it tells stories no one else will. The war on drugs and what an abysmal failure it has been comes to mind. They had a really good one last night called two Americas, contrasting two families that were flat broke and super wealthy. It was eye opening.
I like NPR too. They might seem liberal to conservatives, but again it's just peeling back many different layers of stories. It's deeper and has more analysis.
RE: Michelle Bachmann/Illegal Aliens - C_Fresh - 12-19-2011 08:59 AM
(12-17-2011 07:36 PM)bean Wrote: Five bucks to cross the border? That sucks. I have never heard of that! When did that start?
It costs 5 bucks for me to get out of NJ if I use certain bridges! I usually take an older bridge that is managed by a different organization than the others. It still only costs $2 and I figure a 60% savings is worth a couple extra minutes of drive-time.
That's NJ for you. Home of absurdly high taxes (especially property taxes) and loads of fees. People are moving out left and right. Hit em for a final $5 on their way out. Getting back in is free though.
RE: Michelle Bachmann/Illegal Aliens - Darrell - 12-19-2011 09:14 AM
Quote:It costs 5 bucks for me to get out of NJ if I use certain bridges!
Well that's practically a foreign country.
RE: Michelle Bachmann/Illegal Aliens - C_Fresh - 12-19-2011 09:26 AM
So true. At the very least we are the armpit of the Eastern Seaboard.
RE: Michelle Bachmann/Illegal Aliens - Ricardo - 12-19-2011 10:46 AM
Politics is strange.
We have wars and rumors of wars, a tanking economy, rampant unemployment, an educational crisis in our schools, health care costs spiraling beyond anyone's reach
and instead of discussing these things we have decided to argue about 5% of our population, one of the most productive and industrious group of people in the country.
Attempting to deport 15 million people will generate a booming business for jails, lawyers, and push back the regular caseload at our courts for a decade or more. It will leave food rotting in the fields and immediately hike up prices of just about every conceivable product out there.
At a time when some people want to shrink the role and size of government, the effort to rid this country of illegal aliens would mushroom some branches of government. That is, if they really pursue this issue, rather than simply give lip service and use it as a unifying rally against anything foreign.
How about if we pull a "Marielos," like the Cuban government did: Deport all in jail, all on welfare, empty the nuthouses, throw out all the gays. May I suggest all baptist preachers, for good measure?
So tell me again: What pressing national problem is this deportation of 15 million supposed to fix?