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Fundies and sarcasm - zeusTHEgoose - 11-14-2011 07:22 PM
Maybe this isn't widespread, but I remember pastors and deacons resorting to sarcastic tones when they corrected an individual on their "ungodly" ways.
For example, I normally had my hair longer than the average fundy, meaning it came over the ears a tad. Every Sunday without fail, the senior pastor would come up to me, shake my hand, then say "Hey brother, we need to cut your hair. I got some scissors back there in the children's class, we could..", then pretend he was cutting my curly locks like a four year old giving a makeover.
Of course, the members around would lightly chuckle in approval of his "loving" rebuke, but I always found it irritating. Was he using sarcasm to slam his point home? Or was it to disguise his rebuke as humble jest? IDK, this kinda stuff bothered me a lot.
RE: Fundies and sarcasm - Away-From-The-Umbrella - 11-14-2011 07:32 PM
His was rebuking you in such a way that if you were to say he was continually picking on you, he would claim he was only joking. Gave him deniabiliy, IYKWIM.
He could then preach at conferences and say stuff like, "Sure our church has standeeeeerds, but we don't beat people up with them....No sirrrreeee. We just love people and they eventually come around."
But, in reality, he does beat people up with them until they assimilate.
RE: Fundies and sarcasm - Presbygirl - 11-14-2011 08:41 PM
Yep. Very passive aggressive but not really, but kinda ,well maybe, idk; I just want to control you. Did you like my sarcasm there?
Did you ever cut it because of what he said?
RE: Fundies and sarcasm - Tiarali - 11-14-2011 08:54 PM
Ha. I wonder what he would have said if you'd smiled and said, "Oh, no, this is exactly how I like it!"
RE: Fundies and sarcasm - lucrezaborgia - 11-14-2011 09:03 PM
The best way to deal with that passive aggressive attitude is to totally pretend they are serious and reply in deadpan fashion.
RE: Fundies and sarcasm - zeusTHEgoose - 11-14-2011 09:17 PM
(11-14-2011 08:41 PM)Presbygirl Wrote: Yep. Very passive aggressive but not really, but kinda ,well maybe, idk; I just want to control you. Did you like my sarcasm there?
I did cut it, but not because of what he said. I usually cut my hair down to a 4 and 2 every six months because I like to style with different lengths. On Sundays I would brush my hair straight back to give it the appearance of a modest fundy look (kind of a drag with curly hair). I think the guy was afraid of being direct with me without the protection of a pulpit.
And yes I your sarcasm
RE: Fundies and sarcasm - Tikatu - 11-14-2011 10:22 PM
The proper answer to his joke would be, "But I had it cut just yesterday!"
RE: Fundies and sarcasm - senda wales - 11-14-2011 10:22 PM
It's interesting how different people interpret this kind of thing differently. My brother doesn't really care about getting haircuts so he gets it cut about once every few months, which means it gets pretty long for a fundy. This means that every time he comes home from school and goes back to fundy church all of the fundy guys go up to him and give him the same, "Hey brother, we need to cut your hair" line. To which he just smiles and shrugs. When I was still attending, the women would also go up to me and complain to me that my brother's hair is too long and he needs to get it cut. As if it's my responsibility to watch my brother's hair length? It's like Gen. 4:9 - am I my brother's... hair stylist?
Anyways, I've asked my brother what he thinks about this about this nagging, and he sincerely thinks they are just giving him a suggestion which he feels free to ignore. *shrugs* My brother has a remarkable ability to not care.
RE: Fundies and sarcasm - Tikatu - 11-14-2011 10:25 PM
They'd freak at my oldest son's hair. It's longer than mine.
RE: Fundies and sarcasm - Away-From-The-Umbrella - 11-14-2011 11:17 PM
My husband has this gift. It really is a gift, IMHO. He tends to not stress the little stuff. But when we were mired in fundyland, it was hard to get him to see all the abusive stuff and to take it seriously.
After we left the compound, he started hearing stories from our friends as they began leaving...how badly they were treated. He sees that place much differently now.