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		<title>Literalism</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230;and since that last post was way too serious for a Monday morning, here&#8217;s something a little lighter. I&#8217;m not sure of the original source of this picture. If anybody knows please pass it along and I&#8217;ll give them credit]]></description>
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<p>&#8230;and since that last post was way too serious for a Monday morning, here&#8217;s something a little lighter.</p>
<p><em>I&#8217;m not sure of the original source of this picture. If anybody knows please pass it along and I&#8217;ll give them credit</em></p>
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		<title>Aftershocks</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Free from the law, oh happy condition! What a blessedness, what a peace is mine to know that my standing in Christ is not about what I do but about what he has already accomplished. What joy unspeakable it is to know that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things [...]]]></description>
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<p>Free from the law, oh happy condition! What a blessedness, what a peace is mine to know that my standing in Christ is not about what I do but about what he has already accomplished. What joy unspeakable it is to know that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God. </p>
<p>And yet&#8230;</p>
<p>Some days when trials come and life seems nothing more than pointless pain, there is voice that whispers again the familiar lies in my ear and tells me that it is all my own fault that I suffer. &#8220;It&#8217;s because you didn&#8217;t got to church last Sunday. It&#8217;s because you didn&#8217;t tithe. It&#8217;s because you haven&#8217;t led single soul to Christ yet this year. That is why you suffer. Because you haven&#8217;t done enough. Because you are not good enough. Because you chose to stray from the old paths. That is why you are being judged.&#8221; </p>
<p>Even after the earthquake is over and your feet stand on solid ground there remain the spiritual aftershocks which can briefly shake again the foundations of your world. And when they come (as they inevitably will) all we can do is cling to a more sure foundation: that the Lord knoweth who are his and that He has loved them with an everlasting love. He knows what we are. He knows what we&#8217;ve done. He loves us anyway. </p>
<p>This present pain is not punishment. But some lessons are not easily unlearned. Some roots of doubt go deep.</p>
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		<title>Friday Challenge: Catechize Me</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We had a lot of fun earlier in the week with the Sunday School catechisms. Today&#8217;s challenge is to construct an accurate catechism for fundamentalism. If you can&#8217;t think of a pithy or snarky answer just pose the question and I&#8217;m sure someone around here will be glad to fill in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a lot of fun earlier in the week with the Sunday School catechisms. Today&#8217;s challenge is to construct an accurate catechism for fundamentalism. </p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t think of a pithy or snarky answer just pose the question and I&#8217;m sure someone around here will be glad to fill in.<img src="http://www.stufffundieslike.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/catechism.jpg" alt="" title="Fundies mostly don&#039;t believe in catechisms. Some of them do, however, memorize rhetorical Bible truths in question and response format. " width="640" height="463" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-7179" /></p>
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		<title>Being Right (Why You Can&#8217;t Ever Win An Argument With A Fundamentalist)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today on the campus of Bob Jones University there has been planned a silent protest with the motto &#8220;Do Right, BJU.&#8221; It would hardly seem to be controversial in most places in the free world for students to campaign for the justice for victims of sexual abuse and justice for their abusers but the act [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-6990" title="Contend, O LORD, with those who contend with me; fight against those who fight against me! 	Take hold of shield and buckler 		and rise for my help! 	Draw the spear and javelin 		against my pursuers! 	Say to my soul, 		“I am your salvation!” 	Let them be put to shame and dishonor 		who seek after my life! 	Let them be turned back and disappointed 		who devise evil against me! 	Let them be like chaff before the wind, 		with the angel of the LORD driving them away! 	Let their way be dark and slippery, 		with the angel of the LORD pursuing them! 	For without cause they hid their net for me; 		without cause they dug a pit for my life. 	Let destruction come upon him when he does not know it! 	And let the net that he hid ensnare him; 		let him fall into it—to his destruction! 	Then my soul will rejoice in the LORD, 		exulting in his salvation. 	All my bones shall say, 		“O LORD, who is like you, 	delivering the poor 		from him who is too strong for him, 		the poor and needy from him who robs him?” 	Malicious witnesses rise up; 		they ask me of things that I do not know. 	They repay me evil for good; 		my soul is bereft. 	But I, when they were sick— 		I wore sackcloth; 		I afflicted myself with fasting; 	I prayed with head bowed on my chest. 		I went about as though I grieved for my friend or my brother; 	as one who laments his mother, 		I bowed down in mourning. 	But at my stumbling they rejoiced and gathered; 		they gathered together against me; 	wretches whom I did not know 		tore at me without ceasing; 	like profane mockers at a feast, 		they gnash at me with their teeth. 	How long, O Lord, will you look on? 		Rescue me from their destruction, 		my precious life from the lions! 	I will thank you in the great congregation; 		in the mighty throng I will praise you. 	Let not those rejoice over me 		who are wrongfully my foes, 	and let not those wink the eye 		who hate me without cause. 	For they do not speak peace, 		but against those who are quiet in the land 		they devise words of deceit. 	They open wide their mouths against me; 		they say, “Aha, Aha! 		Our eyes have seen it!” 	You have seen, O LORD; be not silent! 		O Lord, be not far from me! 	Awake and rouse yourself for my vindication, 		for my cause, my God and my Lord! 	Vindicate me, O LORD, my God, 		according to your righteousness, 		and let them not rejoice over me! 	Let them not say in their hearts, 		“Aha, our heart's desire!” 	Let them not say, “We have swallowed him up.” 	Let them be put to shame and disappointed altogether 		who rejoice at my calamity! 	Let them be clothed with shame and dishonor 		who magnify themselves against me! 	Let those who delight in my righteousness 		shout for joy and be glad 		and say evermore, 	“Great is the LORD, 		who delights in the welfare of his servant!” 	Then my tongue shall tell of your righteousness 		and of your praise all the day long. (Psalm 35 ESV)" src="http://www.stufffundieslike.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/BJUSign.jpg" alt="" width="640"  /></p>
<p>Today on the campus of Bob Jones University there has been planned a silent protest with the motto &#8220;Do Right, BJU.&#8221; It would hardly seem to be controversial in most places in the free world for students to campaign for the justice for victims of sexual abuse and justice for their abusers but the act of free expression itself is so unusual in fundamentalist circles that (whatever the eventual outcome) fundamentalists and ex-fundamentalists alike are taking a great deal of interest in the events of today. There&#8217;s no doubt that the students involved in this silent protest are doing so at great personal risk and chief among the obstacles that the protestors face today is the fact that the slogan of &#8220;Do Right&#8221; is almost always trumped by the greater commandment of &#8220;Be Right&#8221; which is the cardinal rule of every fundamentalist.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stufffundieslike.com/rules/the-list-so-far" target="_blank">Rule #1</a> is after all: &#8220;I am right and you are wrong. Always.&#8221; And so shall it ever be. For the rightness of any fundamentalist institution or icon will always be assumed by the people who defend it. The reasons can be invented later.</p>
<p>The great stratagem is thus to continually change the terms of the debate until you prove that you are right on some solitary point. Once you have done this then claim that the point on which you are standing is the only one that matters and no other arguments can possibly count.</p>
<p>Has there been a moral failing? Point out that the people involved were legally correct.</p>
<p>Was what was done illegal? Appeal to some higher, biblical authority and decry the corruption of the legal system.</p>
<p>Was the action indefensibly immoral, illegal, and unbiblical? Then use your eternal trump card and claim that to focus on it would be a distraction from The Gospel and that nothing can possibly be more important than seeing souls saved.</p>
<p>And do all of the above while endlessly touting your own innocence and integrity and relentlessly denigrating the character and motives of your accusers. But whatever you do, don&#8217;t say you were wrong. Don&#8217;t apologize. Don&#8217;t make restitution. Don&#8217;t for a second doubt that you are right simply by being.</p>
<p>For no matter how many court rulings and media stories and witnesses and blogs and protestors rise up against you, you can be confident that you have never been wrong. This is your birthright. This is your heritage. This is the sacred trust passed down from father to son for generations: the gift of being always and forever right.</p>
<p>So Be Right, BJU. Be right, fundamentalist, wherever you are. But you can only be right until the stars fall. For in that latter day then shall the Judge of all the earth stand and deliver His final verdict on whether you truly did justly and loved mercy and walked humbly. There will be no more reasons or excuses or equivocations then. And unless you repent, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment than for you.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s still today. There&#8217;s still this moment. You still have time. It&#8217;s not too late to do right.</p>
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		<title>Commandments Concerning Times Of Prayer</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[And when it shall come to pass that thou shalt eat thy breakfast or begin any trip or shall be called upon to &#8220;close us out in a word of prayer&#8221; by thy pastor (if thou shalt be lucky enough to not be a women) that thou shalt heed the words which are written in [...]]]></description>
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<p>And when it shall come to pass that thou shalt eat thy breakfast or begin any trip or shall be called upon to &#8220;close us out in a word of prayer&#8221; by thy pastor (if thou shalt be lucky enough to not be a women) that thou shalt heed the words which are written in this book that thy prayers and thy fundy cred be not hindered. </p>
<p>For when thou prayest thou shalt in no wise use words that have ever been used before in a prayer. For God shall only hear and answer prayers that are as different from each other as one snowflake is from another. And in the day that thou shalt use a prayer that has been ever said or written then shalt the Lord tell you that he&#8217;s already heard this one and ignore you as if you were a tattooed heathen or an Episcopalian. </p>
<p>And if when thou prayest thou shouldest have a creative lapse wherin thou canst not think of what to say next then shalt thou throw in the word &#8220;Lord&#8221; as a filler. For the Lord doth dearly love to hear his name used as punctuation and never wearies of it. And if thou art really stuck adding a few &#8220;Father God&#8217;s&#8221; or &#8220;Good God Almighty&#8217;s&#8221; might work too.</p>
<p>For when Our Lord taught his disciples to pray he gave them only an outline example which he never really expected them to use except as they might modifying it extemporaneously with much verbal clutter and a meandering purpose. Go and do thou likewise.</p>
<p><em>Independent Baptist Book of Everlasting Rules and Requirements, p 3</em></p>
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		<title>Commandments Concerning Preparations For The End Of Days</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[And when it shall come to pass that evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse and that whirlwind shall be spotted in the thorn tree that thou shalt verily take heed to the words of this game plan for the Apocalypse. For if thou shalt study to do all that is commanded here [...]]]></description>
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<p>And when it shall come to pass that evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse and that whirlwind shall be spotted in the thorn tree that thou shalt verily take heed to the words of this game plan for the Apocalypse. For if thou shalt study to do all that is commanded here then thou shalt verily persevere (but not in a Calvinist way) until the Rapture doth come for to carry you home before the <em>really</em> gnarly stuff goes down.</p>
<p>And thou shalt verily harken unto the words of thy leaders and trade in thy paper fiat monies for coins of gold and of silver and of precious stones. So shalt thou gather unto thyself treasure on earth and lock it in state of the art moth-proof and rust-proof and thief-proof containers. And thou shalt also gather unto thyself firearms and bullets for to protect these treasures from those who might think they need them more than thou dost. For there is no such thing as too much gold or too many guns.</p>
<p>For verily perilous times shall come when men shall think it good to persecute the church with strong language and tax codes and snarky jokes about Christians on prime time basic cable. Then shalt thou gird up thy loins and make thy tents ready for departure and flee as a bird to your mountain state wherein thou shalt live as people did aforetime by growing your own food, shooting your own bad guys, and having the woods for thy sanitation. </p>
<p>And when thou has set thyself upon thy hill and has raised thy barricades and formed thy militia and set by thee thy five year supply of freeze dried lasagna then shalt thou know of a certain that thou mayest withstand whatever the beast and false prophet and great whore can throw at you. As it is written &#8220;do not be anxious about anything&#8221; and again &#8220;cursed is the man who trusts in man and makes flesh his strength&#8221; and further &#8220;Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God.&#8221; And thou mayest ponder why you ran so far away if you weren&#8217;t supposed be scared of anything. While thou art at it, thou mayest also ponder how exactly you&#8217;re supposed reach the lost if they&#8217;re locked outside your fort.</p>
<p>(Alternatively, if you&#8217;re a semi-famous pastor and former Presidential candidate you could just take all your church&#8217;s money and leave your flock high and dry by running away to start a survivalist cult in Montana. Or so I would imagine if I were speaking theoretically.)</p>
<p><em>Independent Baptist Book of Everlasting Rules and Requirements, p 297</em></p>
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		<title>Times and Seasons</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 13:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted; a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: </p>
<p>a time to be born, and a time to die;<br />
a time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted;<br />
a time to kill, and a time to heal;<br />
a time to break down, and a time to build up;<br />
a time to weep, and a time to laugh;<br />
a time to mourn, and a time to dance;<br />
a time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together;<br />
a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;<br />
a time to seek, and a time to lose;<br />
a time to keep, and a time to cast away;<br />
a time to tear, and a time to sew;<br />
a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;<br />
a time to love, and a time to hate;<br />
a time for war, and a time for peace.</p>
<p>(Anybody who tells you that you have to be only one thing all the time apparently hasn&#8217;t read his Bible. )</p>
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		<title>Avoiding Confusion By Making Stuff Up</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are basically two tactics used by most fundamentalist preachers when confronted with passages of Scripture that are unclear, confusing, or contradictory to their own doctrinal positions. The most common is simply to pretend that such troublesome verses don&#8217;t exist. This involves just reading some other verse before launching into the weekly rant. After all, [...]]]></description>
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<p>There are basically two tactics used by most fundamentalist preachers when confronted with passages of Scripture that are unclear, confusing, or contradictory to their own doctrinal positions. The most common is simply to pretend that such troublesome verses don&#8217;t exist. This involves just reading some other verse before launching into the weekly rant. After all, it&#8217;s not like it really matters what the text is, we all know that the sermons is going to end up on the pastor&#8217;s four or five pet topics without fail. </p>
<p>But for those who are convicted that ALL Scripture is given for doctrine, reproof, and self-promotion, there exists another tactic: just read it and then make something up. Guess. Theorize. Give random definitions to the words and then just make it say whatever you want. Bonus point if the passage contains words no longer in common usage. </p>
<p>But what must be avoided here at all cost is the fundy s-word: &#8220;scholarship.&#8221; Definitely don&#8217;t open up commentaries by other people who actually have a clue about the original languages, cultural context, and traditional interpretation. Don&#8217;t read translations that straighten out the syntax a little. Just make something up and keep moving. After all, every fundy pastor has The Spirit, And THE CALL™, and the best doctorate that his home church can provide him. Trusting him is inevitable. </p>
<p>But whatever the case there&#8217;s something I&#8217;ve only heard a handful of fundamentalist pastors in my life ever say: &#8220;I don&#8217;t know what that means. I don&#8217;t think anybody really does.&#8221; Honesty like that is almost as rare as a really good exegesis of Genesis 38:8-10.</p>
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		<title>The Perpetual Question</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As part of the never ending quest for a broader definition of fundamentalism (including but not by any means exclusive of Independent Baptist fundamentalism) I&#8217;d like to contribute a few thoughts on what fundamentalism IS by taking a quick look at what it IS NOT. Fundamentalism is not just believing that the Bible is true; [...]]]></description>
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<p>As part of the never ending quest for a broader definition of fundamentalism (including but not by any means exclusive of Independent Baptist fundamentalism) I&#8217;d like to contribute a few thoughts on what fundamentalism IS by taking a quick look at what it IS NOT.</p>
<p>Fundamentalism is not just believing that the Bible is true; it&#8217;s believing that only one tiny group of people knows the &#8220;real truth&#8221; of the Bible.</p>
<p>Fundamentalism isn&#8217;t having rules and standards; it&#8217;s having rulers who make themselves ultimate standard.</p>
<p>Fundamentalism isn&#8217;t refusing to serve alcohol; it refusing to serve anybody who isn&#8217;t &#8220;deserving.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fundamentalism isn&#8217;t believing that your convictions are right; it&#8217;s believing that they could never be wrong. </p>
<p>Fundamentalism isn&#8217;t applying our religious fervor to our political choices; it&#8217;s trusting political choices to bring about religious fervor. </p>
<p>Fundamentalism isn&#8217;t a belief that people are sinners; it&#8217;s a belief that some few chosen spiritual elite are not.</p>
<p>Fundamentalism isn&#8217;t striving for personal holiness; it&#8217;s wallowing in prideful ignorance.</p>
<p>Fundamentalism isn&#8217;t loving hymns of the faith; it&#8217;s refusing to accept as part of the faith those who don&#8217;t love hymns.</p>
<p>Fundamentalism isn&#8217;t teaching your children self-sacrifice; it&#8217;s happily sacrificing them on the altar of other people&#8217;s selfishness. </p>
<p>Fundamentalism is not simply believing that God created the world; it&#8217;s living in a world run by a god of our own creation. </p>
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		<title>Hubris</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[From a quick look at the empirical evidence, there&#8217;s little doubt in my mind that clear-thinking and strong-willed people tend to not stay for long in fundamentalism. So how exactly do fundamentalists explain why so many of their best and brightest heading for greener pastures? For the answer, we can look to &#8220;Dr.&#8221; Rick Flanders [...]]]></description>
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<p>From a quick look at the empirical evidence, there&#8217;s little doubt in my mind that clear-thinking and strong-willed people tend to not stay for long in fundamentalism. So how exactly do fundamentalists explain why so many of their best and brightest heading for greener pastures? </p>
<p>For the answer, we can look to &#8220;Dr.&#8221; Rick Flanders who this past August wrote an article entitled &#8220;<a href="http://drrickflanders.com/2011/08/he%E2%80%99s-leaving-fundamentalism/">He’s Leaving Fundamentalism</a>&#8221; to explain in no uncertain terms that if a person is leaving fundyland it certainly isn&#8217;t the fault of fundamentalism. Blaming the person who is leaving is the rule of the day.</p>
<p>Here are a few key strategies we can learn from&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>1. Treat the definition of &#8220;fundamentalism&#8221; as if it merely referred to a person who believes &#8220;the fundamentals&#8221; of the Christian faith. </strong></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Although there is a human religious movement called the Fundamentalist, and also distinct movements legitimately labeled Fundamentalist, Fundamentalism itself is not a human movement, but rather a divine truth.&#8221;<br />
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<p><em>&#8220;Whatever the people are doing who are “leaving Fundamentalism,” it is bad.  “Leaving Fundamentalism” inevitably means backing off from policies and principles that have characterized those who stood most faithfully for the Bible in our lifetime.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Oh, really? So what about all the huge glaring problems in the movement? Well once you&#8217;ve conflated being &#8220;a fundamentalist&#8221; with being the only ones who have &#8220;the truth&#8221; then you can&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>2. Downplay the faults and paint them as small in comparison to the horrors of leaving &#8220;the truth.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><em>&#8220;In some cases the defector is parting from evidence of carnality in some of the Fundamentalists he has known.  But Fundamentalism should not be rejected because Fundamentalists need revival.  Tell us what you mean.  Surely you do not mean that you are giving up truth because men who have taught it have been found to be less than spiritual all the time.  Many Fundamentalists are sincere and holy people, although some have been found to be less than so.  Fundamentalism should not be abandoned just because Fundamentalists need revival.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Oh. Ok then. Just suck it up and keep on trucking for Jesus no matter how bad things get. If there are problems just shut up about them and remember that we&#8217;re the only people who really have the truth. In fact you can all just&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>3. Stick Your Head In The Sand</strong></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Fundamentalism is the dividing of light from darkness, and is nothing but a good thing.  Is that what our disillusioned brethren are leaving?&#8221;<br />
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<p>No, Rick, they&#8217;re leaving because your corrupt movement refuses to deal with its own problems of pride and arrogance. It refuses to seek justice victims of crimes and instead protects criminals. It divides the body of Christ over silly issues of personal preference. It calls good evil and evil good.  That is why people are leaving, Rick. They&#8217;re leaving because they love Jesus and His church too much to stay around and watch it be exploited and perverted. </p>
<p>The hubris is astounding.</p>
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