Comments on: Blaming the Victim – BJU Style

By: Amanda

Amanda — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:07:39 +0000

I am fascinated that I’m in this video…I had a particularly neck-breaking chapel seat at the time, so I saw myself and I remember this sermon. *sigh*

By: Mandy

Mandy — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 05:13:53 +0000

Okay, I’m all for calling out preachers/church leaders (not just fundamentalist ones, either) when they actually do or say something wrong. I do believe the Bible and in the fundamentals of the faith, though I don’t consider myself a “fundamentalist” because of all the extra, man-made, legalistic baggage that goes with the title.

That being said, I think a lot of you are just looking for something to criticize, even if you have to make something up or purposely misinterpret it. Listening to that clip, and especially in the context of the sermon itself, it’s obvious that he wasn’t blaming a rape victim for being raped. He was addressing a girl who was bitter because she felt her sister had brought shame upon the family and now that sister was getting more attention then her. At no point did he imply that the girl deserved to get raped, and saying that he was doing so by telling the other girl she needed to forgive her sister is just reaching.

Again, I’m all for calling out real error, including many of the errors that are typical in fundamentalism, but there is a difference between that and making something out of nothing. And for the sake of this site (which I like, and have a lot of fun browsing) there is a difference between a sense of humor and a bitter spirit. Please don’t adopt an attitude of “I hate all fundamentalists and I’m going to disagree with everything they say or do just because.”

By: Gordon M

Gordon M — Sun, 24 Apr 2011 23:59:25 +0000

Jocelyn, thank you for telling the truth…i went to IFB for a long time….this story needed to be told to prevent people from entering the cult!

By: free

free — Fri, 26 Nov 2010 02:49:37 +0000

So this guy was preaching at revival services at my parents’ church this week. Yes, that’s right – thanksgiving week. Like it’s not busy enough. When my parents and sister told me he was speaking it took all I had to keep my mouth shut. And when they raved over how good he is and how much they like him, I had to walk away and keep telling myself to keep my mouth shut. They already think I’m a heathen.

By: Darrell

Darrell — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:42:24 +0000

harsh words donâ€™t brighten anyoneâ€™s day

Then you’re doing it wrong.

By: Dennis Robbins

Dennis Robbins — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:39:23 +0000

I found my way here today quite by accident. But that’s the plight of having Attention Deficit and a computer … O look there’s a butterfly!

It appears to me that a lot of intellectual resources are being squandered here. If this were actually a Christian version of TheOnion.com, it might be interesting and fun. And like many of you, my comments are merely in the “For what it’s worth” department … I’m neither an “attorney” for the prosecution OR the defense.

I do think the differing sides of EVERY life experience deserve to be heard and/or appreciated for their unique perspective. Lots of folks have had criticism leveled against them for this or that, but the sum total of the good things they have done are often never given much press. It’s a lot like political advertising these days â€¦ just give me a couple of little “bad” nuggets about a candidate and I’ll demolish his chances for public office. In the same way, many Christians seem to work for the “Brotherly Love Advertising Agency.” It’s sort of the ultimate Oxymoron, isn’t it?

Criticism is a really cheap commodity â€¦ to get into the “business,” all you need is a $9 domain name and $3.95 a month hosting and you can have FUN & PROFIT from blogging to your heart’s content. More than anything else, I guess what I’m saying is harsh words don’t brighten anyone’s day … and they generally don’t suffer the burden of carrying a lot of factual baggage either.

But hey, what do I know? I’m just a 1970 Bob Jones University business graduate originally from California (you know, the land of fruits and nuts). I currently reside in Lawrenceville, Georgia. My website is linked for further contact.

We can find a whole lot more enjoyment in the time we have left on this planet by trading in our clubs and flamethrowers on more productive tools for our social toolbox. And while I really don’t think much of those quaint sayings like “Honk if you love Jesus” or WWJD?, after reading through these comments I’m tempted to start using more of them … but then, what do I know … I’m just a guy who NEARLY went to the University of California at Berkeley.

By: ex-fundy youth pastor

ex-fundy youth pastor — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 20:17:16 +0000

@Mark …forgiveness, grace, mercy, love…all of those words are dangerous to the fundamentalist…speaking about them might give people the idea that they have permission to sin

Why would the fundamentalist ever want to talk about them (forgiveness, grace, mercy, love). Oh…wait…I forgot…they are all in the Bible. My bad.

By: John

John — Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:16:49 +0000

In no way did Hummel even come close to insinuating what you say here, and an argument from silence is misguided at best.
His message was on bitterness and he stuck to his point, he didn’t go into all the dirty detaiuls of the crime committed-thank God.

By: Requiest

Requiest — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:50:14 +0000

Hmm. I was actually there as a student for this particular message. And I no longer attend BJU due to difficulties I had with the university. In the message, Hummel was merely attempting to address the sin of bitterness. I think in the first example on the clip he handled the situation well, the second one was not. He should have addressed the issue of bitterness later, not immediately. The timing was off.
And to the various flamers: Really? Both sides believe they are in the right. Both sides emphasize different aspects of different issues. Only God can really know which side is “most correct.”
And if you want to see true hatred, go to the Westboro Baptist Church website. That will sicken you.

By: anna

anna — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 04:26:05 +0000

Hi, everyone. I hope you are having a wonderful day. I just feel the need to ask if any of you have talked your feelings over with Rand personally. You talk about justice, and victims, and abuse, and you forget that you are abusing Rand by taking one video clip and forming opinions. My heart goes out to each of you, because I know that God wants his children to be in union with one another. I have known Rand personally for a very long time, and It is hurtful to read some of the things you have to say about him. You have been just as abusive as you claim he has been. Please. I beg you. Follow what God has asked you to do, and go talk to him if you have a problem with him. Here him out. And I beg you to stop speaking so shamefully of him. He is a lover of God, and I know that for a fact. He’s not always right, and he makes mistakes. But he loves God with all of his heart. Thank you for considering my plea. I beg you to stop your discord. I beg you.