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		<title>By: Paul Best</title>
		<link>http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2010/04/church-splits/comment-page-1/#comment-41918</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heard a veriation of that old tale before. Still laughed til a bit of wee came out, then thought: that sums up so many Christians, not just Fundies and IFBers....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heard a veriation of that old tale before. Still laughed til a bit of wee came out, then thought: that sums up so many Christians, not just Fundies and IFBers&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
		<link>http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2010/04/church-splits/comment-page-1/#comment-8833</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Pastors wife : right now I&#039;m just angry still. And I&#039;m in doubt of whther or not they were in the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Pastors wife : right now I&#8217;m just angry still. And I&#8217;m in doubt of whther or not they were in the right.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2010/04/church-splits/comment-page-1/#comment-8756</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 22:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops I meant  Galatians 6:1</description>
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		<title>By: pastor's wife</title>
		<link>http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2010/04/church-splits/comment-page-1/#comment-8743</link>
		<dc:creator>pastor's wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 20:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So sorry your church is going through that.   You don&#039;t know how much I can relate to your comment about how they ignored Matt. 18 and Gal. 5, but just quietly left and took people with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So sorry your church is going through that.   You don&#8217;t know how much I can relate to your comment about how they ignored Matt. 18 and Gal. 5, but just quietly left and took people with them.</p>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 20:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I aplogize for spelling errors, long windedness , and if it sounds choppy.</description>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
		<link>http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2010/04/church-splits/comment-page-1/#comment-8738</link>
		<dc:creator>phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 19:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like church spilts. We had one a couple of months back. 
Don&#039;t even remember much about what lead up to it.
Pulpit commitee would/nt really consider asoociate pastor who whowas interum pastor even though people who would not have wanted him as pastor before  wanted  to give him a chance to candidate. Broughtr in man from  out of state to visit. Got up to preach and tells us he&#039;s going to tell us some things we  have probably never heard before. Preavhes out of Ephephians 4 about &quot;put of put on principle&quot;, if IFB churches preached this people would be able to get victory over their sin. Berates present evangelism methods. The &quot;Shotgun Approach&quot; as he called it . Matbe if you actually listened to the person and established relationship they would get saved.&quot;Go ahead take the Shotgun approach.&quot; {not much of a real problem with what he said. it was the way he said it.}Very long winded. Ends his message by reading a letter from a lady from his churc hwho he and his wife helped. Helped kids learn how to read and helped lady witgh other things . The lady thanked him for various other things. The letter basically glorified him and his wife and made it seems like they were selling himself.



Man comes back in view of a call. Is not very direct in answer to questions.

Example: Black church member asks before church service; This city is 40% black. There used to be some black folks who came to church here, but since Pastor So and So left they don&#039;t come . What are You going to do to get them back andd reach black people.
His answer(no joke)- Well  when my daugter was in Bible college she was going into the ghettos and having  Bible clases for black children.

I{ I don&#039;t know if the guy thoght he was being accused of being a racist or what but he was offended by it} Later on durin the question answer time(which he took plenty of time telling how he came to be a canidate) made sure he knew his daughter was reaching black kids  when she was in Bible college .


He made sure to tell us that if he came here, he would teach us how to  have a real relationship with God and take us to the next level. Would help us get rid of debt on church building which is about thirtyfive  years old(In a questionair he answered he called the church a rescue mission) . 
 This is such a long story and there is so much more I could type 

We voted on him  two weeks later.  Three members of Pulpit commitee  seem extremely overconfident on vote before it even takes place talking about how much he is going to get paid. Vote is read. Church Constitutuion requries 75% of membership. He did not even get half

Two other weeks go by. During those two weeks music director who is also Sunday school teacher teaches SS lesson to class. Go on talking about church problems. 
After two weeks are up three members of PC leave along with about 30 other church members and start new chuch in neihboring city . Claims to love city they are in  and offering the city we are in new hope(they have the audacity of hope) . I percieved that as a doom sentence on our church.Some members call man and rebuke him fo spliting our church. Man&#039;s reply- &quot; there wer a lot of ungodly things going on in that church&quot; So much for Mtt18 and gal 5 instead of that quietly leave and take people with you. Most of the people who left probably voted for him. When they left there was not a pary. Interum pastor calleed us together and made sure we would not rejoice, but refrain from felolowship and if they repent and come back welcom them.  They now have a building, which they claim is a blessing from God(See sucess as a sign of godliness post), and a building dedication is coming up this month

The man actually has has an article on his website on when it is right to leave a church. I talks about  when their is anger and division and the church is controlled by emotions instead of the spirit like Corinth. i&#039;m not saying their may not have been a nd are problems, but i feel like those who left  acted like this man was the only answer to them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like church spilts. We had one a couple of months back.<br />
Don&#8217;t even remember much about what lead up to it.<br />
Pulpit commitee would/nt really consider asoociate pastor who whowas interum pastor even though people who would not have wanted him as pastor before  wanted  to give him a chance to candidate. Broughtr in man from  out of state to visit. Got up to preach and tells us he&#8217;s going to tell us some things we  have probably never heard before. Preavhes out of Ephephians 4 about &#8220;put of put on principle&#8221;, if IFB churches preached this people would be able to get victory over their sin. Berates present evangelism methods. The &#8220;Shotgun Approach&#8221; as he called it . Matbe if you actually listened to the person and established relationship they would get saved.&#8221;Go ahead take the Shotgun approach.&#8221; {not much of a real problem with what he said. it was the way he said it.}Very long winded. Ends his message by reading a letter from a lady from his churc hwho he and his wife helped. Helped kids learn how to read and helped lady witgh other things . The lady thanked him for various other things. The letter basically glorified him and his wife and made it seems like they were selling himself.</p>
<p>Man comes back in view of a call. Is not very direct in answer to questions.</p>
<p>Example: Black church member asks before church service; This city is 40% black. There used to be some black folks who came to church here, but since Pastor So and So left they don&#8217;t come . What are You going to do to get them back andd reach black people.<br />
His answer(no joke)- Well  when my daugter was in Bible college she was going into the ghettos and having  Bible clases for black children.</p>
<p>I{ I don&#8217;t know if the guy thoght he was being accused of being a racist or what but he was offended by it} Later on durin the question answer time(which he took plenty of time telling how he came to be a canidate) made sure he knew his daughter was reaching black kids  when she was in Bible college .</p>
<p>He made sure to tell us that if he came here, he would teach us how to  have a real relationship with God and take us to the next level. Would help us get rid of debt on church building which is about thirtyfive  years old(In a questionair he answered he called the church a rescue mission) .<br />
 This is such a long story and there is so much more I could type </p>
<p>We voted on him  two weeks later.  Three members of Pulpit commitee  seem extremely overconfident on vote before it even takes place talking about how much he is going to get paid. Vote is read. Church Constitutuion requries 75% of membership. He did not even get half</p>
<p>Two other weeks go by. During those two weeks music director who is also Sunday school teacher teaches SS lesson to class. Go on talking about church problems.<br />
After two weeks are up three members of PC leave along with about 30 other church members and start new chuch in neihboring city . Claims to love city they are in  and offering the city we are in new hope(they have the audacity of hope) . I percieved that as a doom sentence on our church.Some members call man and rebuke him fo spliting our church. Man&#8217;s reply- &#8221; there wer a lot of ungodly things going on in that church&#8221; So much for Mtt18 and gal 5 instead of that quietly leave and take people with you. Most of the people who left probably voted for him. When they left there was not a pary. Interum pastor calleed us together and made sure we would not rejoice, but refrain from felolowship and if they repent and come back welcom them.  They now have a building, which they claim is a blessing from God(See sucess as a sign of godliness post), and a building dedication is coming up this month</p>
<p>The man actually has has an article on his website on when it is right to leave a church. I talks about  when their is anger and division and the church is controlled by emotions instead of the spirit like Corinth. i&#8217;m not saying their may not have been a nd are problems, but i feel like those who left  acted like this man was the only answer to them</p>
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		<title>By: jen</title>
		<link>http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2010/04/church-splits/comment-page-1/#comment-6992</link>
		<dc:creator>jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 01:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a pastor&#039;s child... I&#039;ve gone through this sequence so many times.  Thank God I&#039;m an atheist now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a pastor&#8217;s child&#8230; I&#8217;ve gone through this sequence so many times.  Thank God I&#8217;m an atheist now!</p>
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		<title>By: Brendt Waters</title>
		<link>http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2010/04/church-splits/comment-page-1/#comment-4993</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendt Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mounty: &quot;... looks visually atrocious ...&quot;

Ya know, I was gonna tease you a bit for being redundant (&quot;looks visually&quot;). But in reflection that even SOUNDS visually atrocious, so I guess there&#039;s really no redundancy. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mounty: &#8220;&#8230; looks visually atrocious &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Ya know, I was gonna tease you a bit for being redundant (&#8220;looks visually&#8221;). But in reflection that even SOUNDS visually atrocious, so I guess there&#8217;s really no redundancy. <img src='http://www.stufffundieslike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2010/04/church-splits/comment-page-1/#comment-4899</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shelly, good one! Gave me a laugh.......</description>
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		<title>By: JoshJ</title>
		<link>http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2010/04/church-splits/comment-page-1/#comment-4898</link>
		<dc:creator>JoshJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Reader Mo:  LOL!</description>
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