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	<title>Comments on: Planting Foreign Churches (That Look Just Like Ones in the U.S.A.)</title>
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		<title>By: headnotbowedeyeswideopen</title>
		<link>http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2009/10/planting-foreign-churches-that-look-just-like-ones-in-the-u-s-a/comment-page-1/#comment-103517</link>
		<dc:creator>headnotbowedeyeswideopen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nail on head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nail on head.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, there are way too many Christians who equate westernism with godliness.

I actually don&#039;t mind the idea of translating hymns from one language to another, or of one culture singing songs from another. Interestingly, while many American Christians are ready to send their hymns/songs to every other culture, they themselves would never dream of enjoying a Christian song from another culture (especially if that culture has its own unique style of music).  :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, there are way too many Christians who equate westernism with godliness.</p>
<p>I actually don&#8217;t mind the idea of translating hymns from one language to another, or of one culture singing songs from another. Interestingly, while many American Christians are ready to send their hymns/songs to every other culture, they themselves would never dream of enjoying a Christian song from another culture (especially if that culture has its own unique style of music).  <img src='http://www.stufffundieslike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: exIFB</title>
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		<dc:creator>exIFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 03:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arminian songs like Blessed Assurance, Hark the Herald Angels Sing, And Can it Be, All Other Ground, Higher Ground, Guide me O Thou Great Jehovah

Methodists wrote most of those - Wesleyan Methodists :)

Charles Wesley and Fanny Crosby, probably the two most well known and prolific hymn writers, were Arminian Wesleyan Methodists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arminian songs like Blessed Assurance, Hark the Herald Angels Sing, And Can it Be, All Other Ground, Higher Ground, Guide me O Thou Great Jehovah</p>
<p>Methodists wrote most of those &#8211; Wesleyan Methodists <img src='http://www.stufffundieslike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Charles Wesley and Fanny Crosby, probably the two most well known and prolific hymn writers, were Arminian Wesleyan Methodists.</p>
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		<title>By: IFB No More</title>
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		<dc:creator>IFB No More</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 03:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually from an Asian country (not Philippines). My ex-church was planted by an American IFB missionary. 

And yes, we have our quirks - rock music = evil; alcohol = evil; dispensational, KJV = good and so on. 

Even in my country when the mainline churches would be considered evangelical by US standards, these guys are waaaay too far. A lot of folks in my new church (conservative Reformed) one thought my ex-church was a cult when I told them about our doctrines.

My IFB pastor was ultra-right-wing in his political beliefs - Israel is always right, global warming is a scam, UN is evil (he rambled about Christian parents losing control of their children when the US signed the Convention of the Rights of the Child) and so on. 

Lols really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually from an Asian country (not Philippines). My ex-church was planted by an American IFB missionary. </p>
<p>And yes, we have our quirks &#8211; rock music = evil; alcohol = evil; dispensational, KJV = good and so on. </p>
<p>Even in my country when the mainline churches would be considered evangelical by US standards, these guys are waaaay too far. A lot of folks in my new church (conservative Reformed) one thought my ex-church was a cult when I told them about our doctrines.</p>
<p>My IFB pastor was ultra-right-wing in his political beliefs &#8211; Israel is always right, global warming is a scam, UN is evil (he rambled about Christian parents losing control of their children when the US signed the Convention of the Rights of the Child) and so on. </p>
<p>Lols really.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the only thing is - based on the Philippinos I once knew (when they were here in the states for extra training for their jobs back home) - I think there&#039;s been such a culture of this for so long there, that this is now what they think church is - as in that when they plant their own churches there - they will look suspiciously like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the only thing is &#8211; based on the Philippinos I once knew (when they were here in the states for extra training for their jobs back home) &#8211; I think there&#8217;s been such a culture of this for so long there, that this is now what they think church is &#8211; as in that when they plant their own churches there &#8211; they will look suspiciously like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of American missions is completely foreign to the Scriptures.  I get so tired of seeing American missionaries going overseas and demanding things look just like they did in America with NO consideration for local culture and customs.  Things like: requiring the pastors of tribal churches to wear suits and ties, certain dress standards for members, translation of Arminian songs into local vernacular, etc, etc, etc.

The worst part is that the locals often see through the duplicity but refuse to do or say anything because they know the American missionary may just pull his money and go somewhere else and help others.  And sadly, it does happen!  Then the missionary sends a letter back to the States telling his supporters how persecuted he is for the cause of Christ!  Colonialism is alive and well in the modern American fundamentalist missionary movement which would prove revolting to their hero - Adoniram Judson and William Carey!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of American missions is completely foreign to the Scriptures.  I get so tired of seeing American missionaries going overseas and demanding things look just like they did in America with NO consideration for local culture and customs.  Things like: requiring the pastors of tribal churches to wear suits and ties, certain dress standards for members, translation of Arminian songs into local vernacular, etc, etc, etc.</p>
<p>The worst part is that the locals often see through the duplicity but refuse to do or say anything because they know the American missionary may just pull his money and go somewhere else and help others.  And sadly, it does happen!  Then the missionary sends a letter back to the States telling his supporters how persecuted he is for the cause of Christ!  Colonialism is alive and well in the modern American fundamentalist missionary movement which would prove revolting to their hero &#8211; Adoniram Judson and William Carey!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of fundamental Baptist churches use Power Point. Mine does sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of fundamental Baptist churches use Power Point. Mine does sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Kass</title>
		<link>http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2009/10/planting-foreign-churches-that-look-just-like-ones-in-the-u-s-a/comment-page-1/#comment-1933</link>
		<dc:creator>Kass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t a REAL fundie church! They have a powerpoint projector!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t a REAL fundie church! They have a powerpoint projector!</p>
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		<title>By: jw</title>
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		<dc:creator>jw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just offended that the quartet is not wearing suit coats!!! Don&#039;t all fundys know that a song cannot, should not, be sung on stage without wearing the proper attire? The Spirit will not move if the clothing is not right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just offended that the quartet is not wearing suit coats!!! Don&#8217;t all fundys know that a song cannot, should not, be sung on stage without wearing the proper attire? The Spirit will not move if the clothing is not right.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoulda seen the churches the good ol&#039; Fundevangelist Missionary had on his video today! (Yes, I&#039;m still stuck in an IFB church...) About 5 of the 7 churches had names like you&#039;d see in the States. Such as &quot;Cornerstone Baptist Church&quot; and &quot;Grace Baptist Church.&quot; Talk about uniqueness in the country of Zambia...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoulda seen the churches the good ol&#8217; Fundevangelist Missionary had on his video today! (Yes, I&#8217;m still stuck in an IFB church&#8230;) About 5 of the 7 churches had names like you&#8217;d see in the States. Such as &#8220;Cornerstone Baptist Church&#8221; and &#8220;Grace Baptist Church.&#8221; Talk about uniqueness in the country of Zambia&#8230;</p>
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