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	<title>Comments on: O-B-E-D-I-E-N-C-E</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2009/09/o-b-e-d-i-e-n-c-e/comment-page-1/#comment-8654</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 01:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to admit this, but even to this day, I can&#039;t write the word obedience without singing that sing in my head in order to help me spell it...  It part of my inner fundy coming out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to admit this, but even to this day, I can&#8217;t write the word obedience without singing that sing in my head in order to help me spell it&#8230;  It part of my inner fundy coming out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2009/09/o-b-e-d-i-e-n-c-e/comment-page-1/#comment-4862</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 04:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa asked: &quot;How many fundy churches meet in granges? Thatâ€™s what I wanna know!&quot;

When I got out of the Military and came back home (NC) in 1992, the church I attended as a teen had split, so naturally, the refugees had started another church in the Local Grange..... After we built &quot;another&quot; church building... yet another &quot;church&quot; started holding services in the grange when we vacated it...  Ya, gotta love American Religion:  Jet your feelings hurt or there is a split over a power struggle in the church... pick up a rock and throw it and wherever it lands... start another church.  A pox on the whole system of man centered, man controlled, ego building American Religionism!  2/3 or more of those who are controlling a congregation from a pulpit should not be there at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa asked: &#8220;How many fundy churches meet in granges? Thatâ€™s what I wanna know!&#8221;</p>
<p>When I got out of the Military and came back home (NC) in 1992, the church I attended as a teen had split, so naturally, the refugees had started another church in the Local Grange&#8230;.. After we built &#8220;another&#8221; church building&#8230; yet another &#8220;church&#8221; started holding services in the grange when we vacated it&#8230;  Ya, gotta love American Religion:  Jet your feelings hurt or there is a split over a power struggle in the church&#8230; pick up a rock and throw it and wherever it lands&#8230; start another church.  A pox on the whole system of man centered, man controlled, ego building American Religionism!  2/3 or more of those who are controlling a congregation from a pulpit should not be there at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Obedience &#124; Dangerous Intersection</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obedience &#124; Dangerous Intersection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 04:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Reader Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe. Works salvation: a concept so disdained by fundies, yet so central to their actual soteriology. As I explained to my Baptist buddies when I became Eastern Orthodox- we both believe that works are necessary for salvation, the Orthodox are just honest about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe. Works salvation: a concept so disdained by fundies, yet so central to their actual soteriology. As I explained to my Baptist buddies when I became Eastern Orthodox- we both believe that works are necessary for salvation, the Orthodox are just honest about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going with Alan and Camille on this one. In fact, going so far as to steal Alan&#039;s comment and re-post it on my blog (with links).  

What a song... Talk about reinforcing works-based sanctification!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going with Alan and Camille on this one. In fact, going so far as to steal Alan&#8217;s comment and re-post it on my blog (with links).  </p>
<p>What a song&#8230; Talk about reinforcing works-based sanctification!!</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t heard this song in a long time.  Funny how I automatically did the sign language alphabet in the chorus without even thinking about it (with BOTH hands yet!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard this song in a long time.  Funny how I automatically did the sign language alphabet in the chorus without even thinking about it (with BOTH hands yet!).</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2009/09/o-b-e-d-i-e-n-c-e/comment-page-1/#comment-1822</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Now I was told that Ã¢â‚¬Å“Father AbrahamÃ¢â‚¬Â was evil because it was incorrect. Ã¢â‚¬Å“The Jews are the only children of Abraham, silly! NOT YOU!!Ã¢â‚¬Â&quot;

I remember hearing a professor saying that once. I respect the man for at least being painstakingly consistent in his Dispensational-Arminian theology, especially as those consistencies were a factor in my becoming Reformed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now I was told that Ã¢â‚¬Å“Father AbrahamÃ¢â‚¬Â was evil because it was incorrect. Ã¢â‚¬Å“The Jews are the only children of Abraham, silly! NOT YOU!!Ã¢â‚¬Â&#8221;</p>
<p>I remember hearing a professor saying that once. I respect the man for at least being painstakingly consistent in his Dispensational-Arminian theology, especially as those consistencies were a factor in my becoming Reformed.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I was told that &quot;Father Abraham&quot; was evil because it was incorrect. &quot;The Jews are the only children of Abraham, silly! NOT YOU!!&quot; And so began my second-class citizenship status in dispensationalism. . . . Sigh. Nice to be on the outside and actually *read* Paul&#039;s epistles.

And I agree with Alan on this one too. Remember the second verse:

We want to live pure, we want to live clean.
We want to do our best.
Sweetly submitting to authority.
Leaving to God the rest.

Etc. Setting us all up for failure and abuse with that one. Professional Pharisaism takes a lot of work -- even with little ditties.

I do know the author of the song and the children for whom she wrote it. Personally. Went to school with them at BJU and have a continued friendship. I don&#039;t know why I bring that up, tbh. Except to continue my sigh. . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I was told that &#8220;Father Abraham&#8221; was evil because it was incorrect. &#8220;The Jews are the only children of Abraham, silly! NOT YOU!!&#8221; And so began my second-class citizenship status in dispensationalism. . . . Sigh. Nice to be on the outside and actually *read* Paul&#8217;s epistles.</p>
<p>And I agree with Alan on this one too. Remember the second verse:</p>
<p>We want to live pure, we want to live clean.<br />
We want to do our best.<br />
Sweetly submitting to authority.<br />
Leaving to God the rest.</p>
<p>Etc. Setting us all up for failure and abuse with that one. Professional Pharisaism takes a lot of work &#8212; even with little ditties.</p>
<p>I do know the author of the song and the children for whom she wrote it. Personally. Went to school with them at BJU and have a continued friendship. I don&#8217;t know why I bring that up, tbh. Except to continue my sigh. . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, Father Abraham: the Baptist version of the Hokey Pokey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, Father Abraham: the Baptist version of the Hokey Pokey.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob: Father Abraham was verboten under my first pastor. He thought that the hand motions encouraged wicked dancing. Also, I think he had a problem with the song on account of the whole &quot;call no man father&quot; thing.

The Sunday school teacher&#039;s first order of business after that pastor left the church to bring Christ to the Godless Catholics of the Phillipines (cause Catholics have never heard of Christ, don&#039;t you know...) was to begin each Sunday school session with a rousing, rollicking rendition of Father Abraham. It was such guilty pleasure!

Somehow, &quot;I&#039;m in the Lord&#039;s Army&quot; was totally cool to the aforementioned pastor. Maybe it was the military theme. I wonder if he would have let us sing &quot;General Abraham&quot;...

As far as the wicked dancing thing goes- now that i&#039;m grown up and married, i have a hard time seeing how &quot;right arm! left arm!&quot; could lead one into sinful lust. wait, i take that back. i have a hard time seeing how it could lead one into lusting after another person...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob: Father Abraham was verboten under my first pastor. He thought that the hand motions encouraged wicked dancing. Also, I think he had a problem with the song on account of the whole &#8220;call no man father&#8221; thing.</p>
<p>The Sunday school teacher&#8217;s first order of business after that pastor left the church to bring Christ to the Godless Catholics of the Phillipines (cause Catholics have never heard of Christ, don&#8217;t you know&#8230;) was to begin each Sunday school session with a rousing, rollicking rendition of Father Abraham. It was such guilty pleasure!</p>
<p>Somehow, &#8220;I&#8217;m in the Lord&#8217;s Army&#8221; was totally cool to the aforementioned pastor. Maybe it was the military theme. I wonder if he would have let us sing &#8220;General Abraham&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>As far as the wicked dancing thing goes- now that i&#8217;m grown up and married, i have a hard time seeing how &#8220;right arm! left arm!&#8221; could lead one into sinful lust. wait, i take that back. i have a hard time seeing how it could lead one into lusting after another person&#8230;</p>
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